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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 10:23AM Ohhlaawd said

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Very nice interview, but I don't quite agree with his opinions on Fantasy v. Sci-Fi.

SWG was incredibly popular up until they murdered the game, and KOTOR is going to ship a ton of boxes as well. When someone makes a fun and accessible Sci-Fi MMO people will play it.

Posted: Mar 8th 2011 11:43AM Lenn said

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@Ohhlaawd Star Wars is more fantasy than SF.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 1:19PM StClair said

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@Lenn & @Ohhlaawd:

Once upon a time,
in a far-away land...

Two peasants arrive, after some misadventures, at the farm where a boy (almost a man) lives with his aunt and uncle. They bear a message from a beautiful princess to an ancient wizard who the boy knows. The wizard rescues them from savage tribesmen and reveals more (but not yet all) of the boy's true heritage as well as his own past, presents him with a magic sword that once belonged to his father, and issues the Call to Adventure...
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 2:22PM Ohhlaawd said

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@StClair

BUT WITH SPACESHIPS!
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 4:30PM Lenn said

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@StClair Exactly.

@Ohhlaawd Spaceships do not SF make. Look at Alien. Even though it takes place on a spaceship, it's essentially a horror film.

Star Wars has all the typical fantasy tropes firmly in place: the naive youngling, the wise old wizard, the damsel in distress, the roguish sidekicks, the dark lord(s). They just use spaceships instead of horses and lightsabers instead of longswords. Still fantasy at heart.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 5:14PM Ohhlaawd said

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@Lenn

I don't see those as fantasy tropes, they're merely storylines common to various genres. Just because fantasy predates science fiction as a literary genre doesn't mean that the literary tools oft-used by that genre become its sole providence.

What makes science fiction is the world you toss those storylines into. Ask 100 strangers on the street if Star Wars is science fiction or fantasy and 99 times I bet they tell you science fiction. If you twist the definition of the term to the point that the everyman comes up with the "wrong answer" then you've failed as the proctor.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 5:56PM Lenn said

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@Ohhlaawd Bottom line: Star Wars isn't about science. Science should play an important part in science fiction. Hence the name. Star Wars is about mythology, mysticism and magic. That's as fantasy as you can get. Most people would classify SW as SF because of its setting and the spaceships, not because of its themes or story.

Sorry about the derailing. Back to your scheduled programming.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 6:16PM Ohhlaawd said

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@Lenn

I agree to disagree =P
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 9:52PM Space Cobra said

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@Lenn & @Ohhlaawd

You know, there was a time, not "too long ago" (well, 1960's-70's) that many TV critics (and some movie ones) were critical of Science Fiction on TV (and some movies). The basically labelled them as "Westerns in Space". You also see some elements shared by both (pioneers going into the unknown territory, etc.).

So, this debate is a pretty old one: What makes up a Science Fiction Story? A Western? A Fantasy. I have heard of Star Wars even being called "Science Fantasy", but you can go to earlier works, such as the "John Carter : Warlord of Mars" and label it "Science Fantasy". Or even the worlds of Jules Verne.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 10:26AM (Unverified) said

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Man I adored that game. Hope you make good use of said E&B motherlode. I knew there was a good reason for keeping it around all this time.

Posted: Mar 8th 2011 5:43PM Dianoga4 said

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Hmm, I'm tempted to jump back onto the emulator again. Thanks for the article.

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