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Posted: Feb 25th 2011 9:29AM Dalen said

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I use game keypads like the n52te * or the G13**.
The straight aligned keys are a real comfort for my poor hands.

* http://www.google.fr/images?q=n52te&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8
** http://www.google.fr/images?q=logitech+g13&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8

PS: where's the Edit button ?

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 9:39AM DoctorMolotov said

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mouse/kb master race > controller using peasants

Generally the attitude (and age bracket) that comes along with a controller is not something that the glorious PC-gaming master race would want to see mucking up their games... However I agree with " If it's fitting for the game and doesn't negatively impact the experience", because ultimately it all comes down to the game.

On a more serious note (yes the above was srsbizlulz), mouse/kb precision is for more winrar than that of a controller. What makes the diff however is the mouse and keyboard that the player owns. A decent setup (steelseries kb, or logitech setup, rat9 mouse) etc will always be far superior to a controller.

Damn controller using plebs.

xD

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 9:42AM Avernus said

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People using controllers in DCUO has greatly improved my prowess in PvP. You are handicapping yourself by using a controller v. my 9 button 4000 dpi Cyborg Rat 5 mouse and Logitech g13. Perhaps some brains are just too slow for that many buttons. Mine is not.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 9:51AM thedoommarine said

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I believe people try to use the controller in Global agenda. They tend to die, a lot.

I prefer the mouse and keyboard since it is better, faster, more accurate, and gives more options. With MMO's this tends to not matter as much, but I'm still faster with them than I am after 10 years of console gaming.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 9:57AM Arkanaloth said

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think I'll pass on the controller for MMO input. In some games designed around it like DCUO I think it probably works well for some but I'm not a lean back and game type anyway so I tend to always have the keyboard within reach, may as well use it.

so far at least the action MMO's I've played (DCUO & Vindictus) have done a good job of mapping their button-mashing fun to the mouse, now let's see if the mouse buttons hold up to the brutality!

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 10:03AM design1stcode2nd said

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I can't imagine using a controller for an MMO there are just too many buttons/actions. I've not played any of the controller MMO's, how do you type during a group or raid with a console controller?

Some games, heavy action ones will lend themselves to a controller but I don't think you can fit the breadth of an MMO into the limited button configurations that a controller would allow.

I’ve never understood why there aren’t keyboard and mice for all the mainstream consoles. 90% of my computer is used for playing PC games. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper to just have a PS3, keyboard (or button controller like an N52TE) and mouse and play on a 52 in 1080p set.

I can’t imagine playing a FPS on a console, the precision compared to a mouse doesn’t even come close

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 10:21AM Snichy said

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I would never use a controller for an MMO due to the obvious restrictions. I have nothing against controllers as they work perfectly for the simple console games but I play MMO becuase of their complexity and therefore a controller just cant handle the things I want to do ingame.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 10:30AM Lateris said

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I use a PS3 with a keyboard and mouse for games that will support it. I have been able to get used to the controller on my PS3. But for shooters it is a slow response time. I don't like that. I can adjust which is no big deal. I also use a steel series keyboard and a naga mouse for my PC. Over all for an in depth MMO like Eve Online a keyboard is required. I still think PS3 takes the cake for consoles.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 10:35AM markt50 said

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Yes, I'm a keyboard luddite and proud of it!

When it comes to playing anything on my PC I use keyboard and mouse, the exception being driving games where I use a wheel. I do have a 360 pad that works with the PC and I even tried it once out of curiosity, but much prefer keyboard and mouse, especially for MMO's.

I actually have nothing against the use of pads, I'm also a big 360 and PS3 gamer so it's not like a can't use a pad. I just have a preference for using keyboard and mouse when given the choice.

My only hope is that as MMO's embrace the use of Joypads, I hope they don't place restrictions on what can be done with a keyboard and mouse. DCUO is a prime example, for me the controlls with a keyboad and mouse are horrible. They have restricted the control scheme so that it fits in with what is possible with a joypad and it just doesn't feel right.

I'm all for increasing the choice us players have, so giving the choice to player to use a joypad is great, just don't make it at the expense of the keyboard and mouse control scheme which has been perfected over many years.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 10:56AM VampireCactus said

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If I could control every game with a controller, I would. When it comes down to it, it's just more relaxing and fun. Controllers were designed for comfortable game playing. Keyboards were not. I'd much rather be able to sit back in my chair and play than have to be hunched over a keyboard and mouse, regardless of the added precision it gives me.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 10:58AM Germaximus said

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I started off gaming on the consoles, i didnt have a PC until i was around 14, before that it was all about the atari, nintendo, super nintendo, genesis, sega cd, all that stuff.

It took me awhile to get used to the keyboard and mouse, i freakin hated it for awhile.

Now i think my preference would really depend on the game but im comfortable with both.
Looking forward to the next step of virtual reality.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 11:28AM Pingles said

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I think we will find as time goes on more and more players are being raised from infancy on game controllers.

For most of my wasted youth and young adult-hood consoles were WAY behind PCs in game quality. So I stuck with PCs.

Now the gap is narrowing (and then some).

We're going to have a large portion of future adult gamers who will have never used a keyboard/mouse to play.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 11:46AM PrimeSynergy said

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Coming from being strictly a console player, I can literally switch between keyboard and mouse no problem. It all feels very natural to me. I will only use a controller if the MMO is designed for it though. i.e. DCUO, Vindictus, etc

There this addon that let you control WoW with a controller a while back. And while that's a good idea in theory, unless you never use 90% of your abilities for some reason, that program was completely useless.

As for Kinect. It will never be a viable way to control an MMO as it is now. Again, it's a cool idea bogged down by the reality of it all.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 12:07PM Severius said

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Every single solitary developer that has released an FPS across platforms has been asked to allow pc gamers to play with console gamers. They have stated unequivocally, that, regardless of the player, the gamepad player cannot compete against a keyboard + mouse player.

If your claims had any merit the reverse of the above would be true.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 12:19PM Thorqemada said

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If they manage to produce a MMO that has areas of gameplay where you can act like with a wii-controler, kinect or whatever active motion control it could be very fun but at all a mmo without keyboard + mouse is only an action game or very uncomfortable.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 12:26PM Dumac said

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Im comfortable with a controller when its comfortable to use, and that's not a pleonasm because some games do have controller support but it can get awkward to use. Targeting for instance. Its just easier with a mouse. Typing. There is no substitute for mouse drag-and-drop when you want to arrange your hotbar. Little things like that. Im not against controllers but MMOs have far too many interactions with the environment for it to be effortless, unless you design the game from the ground up for a controller (in which case you are stuck with it because mouse/kb implementation intentionally sucks)

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 12:38PM Purkit said

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I'm old. They hurt my thumbs, I end up with claw like hands after a few hours of playing on one, great for doing wicked witch impressions, not so much for anything else where hands are important. So that's a good reason for me not liking them. I could go into the many other reasons I prefer mouse/kb to controllers but other people have already covered those.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 12:49PM Heraclea said

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I haven't used a controller or even a joystick for more than ten years now. My last console was a Sega Genesis, and before that the only one I ever owned was an Atari 2600. Yes, I too am old.

I understand that the PS3 servers for DCUO are rather empty places compared to the PC servers. In any MMO, the first line of communication is by typing. Organizing teams must be deeply frustrating over there, and I gather roleplaying just isn't happening.

Addressing the lack of a mouse cursor in that game is probably the single largest improvement they could do to their chat interface. It is annoying not to be able to mouse down to the chat window to start typing.

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 12:54PM Thac0 said

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I cant type and be social with a game pad. It defeats to the point of an mmo. Don't even tell me to use voice it ruins any immersion and is annoying so ... yes i am a keyboard Luddite

Posted: Feb 25th 2011 1:51PM Audacious said

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I grew up playing video games with controllers and prefer to use them when I can.

That said, since MMO fans seem so adamant about their beloved keyboards, ideally a game should appeal to both crowds. Several console games have multiple controller options (arcade sticks for fighting games, Wii controller/Gamecube controllers for several Wii games) and computers are in an even better position to appeal to everyone than consoles are.


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