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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 1:19PM sleepr said

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@Epiny The people leading the team are from Bioware and that is all it matters. It's just like than in every other company or do you think they keep the same employees forever?!
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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 1:35PM cforciea said

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@sleepr

Actually, that's exactly why I tend to think studio loyalty is over-rated. If you asked me 10 years ago what my favorite game development companies were, you'd get a list of companies that produce games today that I never purchase at all.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 1:48PM sleepr said

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@cforciea Whatever you say, the fact is: Bioware games are good, the game industry works that way.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 3:05PM Pingles said

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@Epiny

Bioware has had enough success that it is reasonable to think that the company leaders, as a whole, have a good grasp on game design.

Regardless of the individual coders and artists involved it's likely that the management will drive this product in the right direction.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 3:45PM Laguna said

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@sleepr

That's what people told about square enix as well.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 4:12PM Stellar25 said

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@Laguna That is what fanboys say about their favorite game companies.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 1:30PM Trojan said

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Hopefully that was just a poorly worded statement. To say it's dumb to break ANY of the rules established by WoW implies that SWTOR will be exactly like WoW. That doesn't seem to be the case based on everything I've seen about SWTOR. Sure, it applies some of the standard MMO conventions like classes and talent trees, but I think Greg Z was probably just meaning to say something like "If you deviate from what WoW does, you'd better have a good reason for it because WoW is so successful." I think that Bioware DOES have good reasons for what they're doing differently, and I have faith that SWTOR will be a lot more than just "WoW in space."

Posted: Feb 10th 2011 1:31PM Lockisezmode said

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I love how all these people cry about WoW. WoW reprsenets a way to make money successfully and like it or not most companies want to make MONEY. If you really hate WoW get your own development team from your millions of dollars and make a game your way. However, you are probably just another armchair ***** complainging about MMOs and doing nothing.

Posted: Feb 10th 2011 1:46PM Randomessa said

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@Lockisezmode

I know, right? I mean, CCP is about to go bankrupt since nobody plays EVE. Oh, and ArenaNet has been forced to close servers on Guild Wars left and right; there's no way they have the startup capital to work on improving it or creating anything new or different from WoW. Why, I remember that upstart company Trion Worlds who thought they might create an MMO that did things slightly differently from WoW, but their title is vaporware.

We just have to face it, there's nothing else to play but WoW, nobody else to give our money to. If we want something different, we'll have to design it ourselves; there's no other way.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 2:30PM Lockisezmode said

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@Randomessa

I love when people cherry pick posts. Never did I say it was the only way but it represents a very successful model that can be taken and applied to other games much like the article. However, stay over in troll land because you need some training.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 1:42PM Plastic said

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Oh no, an article that pits Star Wars fans against WoW fans, run for the hills!!!!!

P.S. Greg is right, he just should have had the foresight to keep his mouth shut about it. =p

Posted: Feb 10th 2011 2:36PM NeoWolfen said

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what saddens me most is that the "industry" only ever seems to strive to MATCH Wow's success, not surpass it. And that fact years on all these companies can't compete with a dated game that has done well, and not actually IMPROVE upon it,is fairy sad.

Posted: Feb 10th 2011 3:53PM Stellar25 said

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@NeoWolfen That is akin to a movie production company always trying to beat Avatar or Titanic. It is more than likely not going to happen and attempting to make something with the purpose of doing so will likely result in failure.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 8:13PM NeoWolfen said

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@Stellar25

I agree it may "not" happen, but if they set thier sights to only match something not surpass it to begin with then they (being the industry at large) are never likely to be in with even a fighting chance. And as I said the fact that most can't even match the quality and success of what is now a dated game like WoW let alone improve on it, is kinda sad.

Thankfully I like biowares stance of trying to have thier own game stand on its own merits and not try to make that comparison although as far as the community goes the comparison freuqnelty keeps popping up.

thoughthat said id have more faith in bioware matching or improving upon the formula than I would most companies if only for the fact bioware has yet to release a game that disappoints me not only in quality and content but in performance and production values.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2011 2:38PM dcy123 said

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hey im fine with them making a wow clone with star wars lore, but.. this is a big but, stream line every thing if your not going to innovate at least improve.

Posted: Feb 10th 2011 3:00PM Seldra said

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I can totally understand his perspective, a car manufacturer isn't going to create a car with square tires. But I think people shouldn't let themselves be blinded by Blizzard's shadow. Developers should always strive to do things better, to put a new spin on things, and to take a risk even if it's a small one, which is better than to simply try on Superman's colors but with a shirt and jeans on.

Posted: Feb 10th 2011 3:10PM Forger said

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What a smug prat

Posted: Feb 10th 2011 3:17PM pixledriven said

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So, Bioware has now said: "We are making 'WoW: In Space!'.

I have been vindicated.

Posted: Feb 10th 2011 3:32PM Gildas said

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let me just say one thing.....

The first MMO that will be able to "compete" with WoW will be absolutely nothing like WoW.

These people are trying to beat WoW at being WoW. If you try to make your game like WoW, people will just go back and play the actual thing.

There needs to be a reason for people to subscribe to a game. After seven years strong, the people that decide to leave WoW are going to be leaving because they want something different; the people that don't want something different will more than likely just stay with WoW.

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