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Posted: Jan 25th 2011 11:17AM Hurlbut said

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Did they mention what other civilizations they are looking at including for the game?

Posted: Jan 25th 2011 10:57PM Icemasta said

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@Hurlbut
No, only Greece and Egypt so far, but each civilization has a lot of content. Can't really say much because of NDA.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2011 11:34AM drakon said

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I'd much rather an MMO be P2P than Freemium, especially games like this. It screams of an opportunity for MS to abuse the microtransaction thing.

Posted: Jan 25th 2011 10:55PM Icemasta said

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@drakon
Care to elaborate your point?

I've done the Closed Beta since June 2010 of this game, it's fun, yes, and fits in the Freemium model and has no place in the P2P market.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2011 11:33PM drakon said

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@Icemasta

There is a huge opportunity for MS to nickel and dime people to death. Want the Egyptian civilization? $5 Want elephant warriors for your Egyptians? Another $3. Want to upgrade your elephant warriors to the max upgrade level? Another $2. Want a Priest of Ra to go with your elephant warrior? Another $3. Etc etc.

I'm not in the beta. But the RTS genre seems to be ripe for nickel and dime crap with Freemium games.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2011 11:57AM BigAndShiny said

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I really look forward to this in a distraction kind of way. Like waiting for the raid group to be formed. Alt-Tab, AoE

Posted: Jan 25th 2011 12:22PM pcgneurotic said

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Seems to me like every time a 'normal' game gets a browser-based version, the art style goes cartoony. Not complaining mind, just saying.

Posted: Jan 25th 2011 10:58PM Icemasta said

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This isn't browser-based lol. This is a full game based on the Age of Empire 3 engine, with Age of empire 2 mechanics. IMHO, it captures the awesomeness of AoE2 while making the best out of the AoE3 engine, and it's quite polished.

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Posted: Jan 25th 2011 11:40PM drakon said

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@Icemasta

I hope so. I really want to like the game and will try it regardless of my misgivings about the F2P / Freemium model.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2011 1:38PM (Unverified) said

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I havent played AOE in years and years why does it look like a diney movie now? lol

Posted: Jan 25th 2011 1:41PM Zuljundwumn said

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Looks like the cover for the new disney cartoon, straight to dvd.

Posted: Jan 25th 2011 2:36PM BatsyBatsy said

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There are NO micro-transactions for this game. We will not be nickle and diming our players. Any costs will be a one time, reasonable price. We will not be selling gear AT ALL.

Also - this is NOT a browser game. Age of Empires Online is a full AAA game experience that you will download.

Posted: Jan 25th 2011 3:41PM Brockobama321 said

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@BatsyBatsy

Real Batsy, or enterprising beta user trolling?

Send in your votes now!
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Posted: Jan 25th 2011 3:41PM Bladerunner83 said

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I loved the old RTS Age of Empires, I used to play it for hours. It's interesting that they changed it to a cartoony style, like a Saturday morning cartoon. I watched the trailer and it said it was rated "E" for ages 10+. I think they made Age of Empires Online for kids, additionally the game looks very comical, like the camel rider bouncing on the back of the camel, with its legs flying in the air. I don't play with children in the guild that I'm with, everyone is 20+. A game geared towards children, with a micro-transaction model just sounds dangerous and it definitely leaves room for financial abuse.

Posted: Jan 25th 2011 11:12PM Icemasta said

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I don't get this. Financial abuse? You pay if you WANT to pay, you can play for free if you wish, and I can assure you no items will be in microtransaction and ONLY features (Race unlock, additional feature unlock, etc...).

IMHO, P2P is a bigger scam than F2P, for various reasons. In P2P you pay to gain access to stuff you've already bought.

After Xmas, I was low on cash from all the gifts and parties, so I am keeping my wallet close for a month at least. If I was on a P2P game, that would mean losing the hours of work on my character and having to find something else to do unless I could unlock him? Then you take the freemium games like LOTRO where if I am broke, I won't be able to buy all of the newest content (Albeit none have been out in forever), I'll still be able to continue playing my characters, level an alt or something.

Over 3 months you'll pay the price of a real game and be rewarded with either a small patch with content that will last you 3 hours or absolutely nothing.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2011 12:30PM Bladerunner83 said

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@Icemasta

"IMHO, P2P is a bigger scam than F2P, for various reasons. In P2P you pay to gain access to stuff you've already bought."

You don't have an honest opinion when you hide behind a nickname. F2P leaves room for abuse, because there is no limit to what you can spend. Good thing these F2P companies haven't delved into the gambling world, Im sure down the road they will create a new type of addiction; Overspending on F2P games addiction. There was a news article on this website a couple months back that stated some MMO soccer game had users spending close to $5000 dollars a month. A subscription game is 100% honest and legit, It's exactly like having a magazine subscription or a TV/Internet account through Bright House. You pay for something and you get it, all laid out in front of you. F2P is just the opposite, you buy something now, it could disappear later.

If you haven't realized yet, companies nowadays make you buy the game then release small tidbits, like tiny expansions; Dragon Age, Fallout 3 and a few others do this. The subscription model is like having a cash shop that automatically takes care of the charges for you. When you buy a game with a sub. model, you get to experience the entire game, and if you play WoW, then that world is always changing, so the content is worth the $15 a month. Additionally I would rather pay $15 to a company that will honestly maintain the game with integrity. It makes me feel good putting money into the pockets of game developers that show they are the best of the best. Who wants mediocre these days? So why do I pay money for something I already bought, because its not the same when I initially bought it, its better and bigger.

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Posted: Jan 25th 2011 3:49PM BatsyBatsy said

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Real BatsyBatsy!

Posted: Jan 25th 2011 3:54PM Brockobama321 said

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@BatsyBatsy
K after reading your posts I'm assured.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2011 11:06PM Icemasta said

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@BatsyBatsy
Gonna back Batsy on this one. As I've mentioned in several posts, I've been in this Closed Beta since June 2010, and Microsoft asks us a lot of question because they don't know shit about the MMO market it seems. There was a survey early on about how player felt if items, even just vanity buildings for your big out of combat city were on a microtransaction system, and it was a big no. So after much discussion, Microsoft reps confirmed that AoE online will not have items available in microtransaction, but rather will offer the game in chunks (Like Turbine does).

To make it clear, from what we were surveyed heavily about but not told, so this doesn't fall under the NDA and I can talk about it:

-They asked us if it was fine to give a race free up to level 20 (cap is 40, true rares start at 20) and then players had to purchase the full Civ pack for 5-15$ (they asked us which price was the most reasonable).

What was confirmed in the article is that this is probably gonna happen, I am guessing at 15$, and you unlock access to rare and epic on your account.

-They asked us about additional features and prices, features such as on demand Skirmishes (instead of using repeatable missions or PVP) with wide maps for Co-ops.

Posted: Jan 27th 2011 9:44PM Capnwinters said

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Looking at the screenshots, I just keep thinking that the Egyptian units are gonna start singing "A Whole New World." I appreciate the need for bright and colorful games, but controlling ancient armies shouldn't feel like Harvest Moon.
It's apparent that these folks are aiming for an E rating. Historical armed conflicts without even a cursory attempt at realism? Look, I'm not asking for Bulletstorm here, but when empires clashed, they didn't hold hands. As far as I'm concerned, a proper Age of Empires 4 is vastly preferable to this, as nice at it is to share AoE with neophytes.

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