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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 8:11AM DaBruuzer said

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Yes it is.

My family is struggling, financially, at the moment, resulting at my wife and I ending up far underemployed. Although we used to maintain several MMO subs, it is just not possible right now. We keep our main subscription running, but any other games we play have to be F2P or Freemium for the time being. DCUO was great fun in the beta, but we just can't afford it right now.

Posted: Jan 24th 2011 8:46AM Beau Hindman said

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@DaBruuzer Good luck, Da! Keep your chin up and you'll get back on your feet soon!

Beau
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 9:38AM Not THAT Matt said

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@DaBruuzer

Ditto. I just got laid off Friday. We plan on keeping WoW around because it's a familiar distraction, and a very efficient use of $30 a month (for two of us) but that's about it at the moment.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 10:01AM (Unverified) said

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Don't worry that you'll be losing out on anything though. When something like this is bound to go F2P sooner rather than later, why bother subbing for it now?
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 10:13AM alleychatte2002 said

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@DaBruuzer
I was in your shoes 2 years ago - husband laid off then severely underemployed work while I was laid off and had to settle for a steep pay cut to get another job. As horrible as it may fee now, you will see a light at the end of the tunnel. Keep at it.

We had to cut all our MMOs at that time, and we still haven't gotten back into any. And if there is no decent PvP/RvR, neither of us can afford to waste time with a 'paid trial' game purchase.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 11:16AM Utakata said

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@DaBruuzer

No it isn't.

As also a below the poverty line poor person I would want to play in a game where income is not a required necessity in order to progress and advance. Where I am playing in an equal playing feild with access to everything as with someone who has 10 times plaus the icome I do. Only subs and buy 2 play (if done right) models can achieve that.

I am planning to get DCUO at some point (yes, I have alocated a budget for it), but I am waiting a couple of months or so to see how the game goes. I'm not interesting in purchasing something that turns into another crap trap that Champions Online turned out to be. So I am waiting on it a bit instead of playing it hot of the press. And suffice to say, my interest will be completely lost if it goes F2P.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 2:52PM DancingCow said

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@Utakata

I'm with you.

I'm dirt poor and $15 a month buys me a lot of entertainment. There's no other way I can spend $15 that gets me so much.

DCUO isn't the best way for me to spend that money though. I tried it in beta and it definitely has some good points but on the whole it was disappointing, especially compared to CoH.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 4:57PM cflann said

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@DancingCow
I know it's not technically an mmo, but I suggest Minecraft...
Best $15 I ever spent (although I think it costs a little more now that it's in beta).
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 7:58PM boytype said

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@Utakata

There is no poor person who plays mmos in the united states.

You have;
a computer new enough to play this game (or a ps3)
monthly internet service subscription
60$ to buy the damn game

you are in no way poor. get some damn perspective. there are people who work two jobs and cant feed their families, people who cant afford a place to live, and people who dont make enough money to maintain electricity and running water.

And you, with enough money to throw away on all the unnecessary useless crap above, are going to say how poor you are? i call bull****. give me a freaking break.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 8:02PM boytype said

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@DaBruuzer

if your family is struggling, maybe you need to do the adult thing and stop wasting money on an internet service subscription and MMO subscriptions and save it, or use it toward improving your families situation instead.

get some priorities.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 10:12PM Utakata said

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@boytype

Really? What evidence do you have of that? And why do you presume everyone who plays MMO's has a family to feed and/or lives in the *US?

*Hint: DaBruuzer flies a different flag than the Stars & Stripes.

Yes, I am calling out your bull****.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 10:52PM boytype said

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@Utakata

a family is a social unit consisting of one or more adults, possibly with children or other extended members. so if a person is in fact a person, they have a family of at least 1.

The US i will certainly give you. I specifically state the US, because there are definitely people in both South American and Asian countries that ARE in fact poor, and spend what extremely little money they do have for time at a net cafe instead of using it to find shelter or secure food. They are morons without a doubt, but they are unquestionably poor.

The evidence I have is that I have been to these places. and the middle east. and several EU nations. And out of all of the places I have been, the US, EU, and OK have by far the most people who cry "poor" because they cannot purchase every single thing that it occurs to them to purchase. Yet the amount of money they waste of useless, trivial, unproductive crap that serves no purpose other then to distract and entertain is is well beyond what someone who is actually poor has to spend on the actual necessities of life.

if you can afford to own a computer to use the internet on, have an internet service subscription, and purchase a $60 game then you are not poor. and if you cant buy 1 or 2 less flavored coffees, fast food meals, pints of beer, or iphone apps to save the $15 sub fee for a game that DOESNT MEAN YOUR POOR. IT MEANS YOU DONT WANT TO PLAY.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2011 2:30AM yahgee said

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@Tempes Magus

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. To me, 15 dollars is a drop in a bucket; I'd rather pay that for one month of entertainment then buying a console game for 50 dollars and beating it within the first few days of owning it.

And you charging your friend for computer time is a little far fetched to believe it's like a sub. First, you can't say 15 for a monday; it would be $ .50 ( .50 x 30 days = 15 dollar sub) and it wouldn't be the whole day. I'm not sure i've heard of a MMO shutting down for a whole month, maybe a day or so... so in your comparison it would be for an hour at most. To me that sounds reasonable.

Don't know, I understand people are in tight budgets but I think it's a little hard to complain that MMO's aren't all changing. F2P hasn't even been proven to be 100% successful. Just click on the LOTRO page and you'll see the concerns players are having with increase in Hackings; most likely due to F2P players.

It just comes down to time in my opinion. Games can always go F2P, but I don't think going the opposite works the same. Just think if WoW started out F2P, you think it would be the same game that today millions play?
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Posted: Jan 26th 2011 2:41AM kalipou134 said

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I'm sorry but this baby ain't going free to play anytime soon scrub.

Deal with it.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2011 2:58AM DancingCow said

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@Tempes Magus

Fair enough you don't like subs but your logic is a bit off.

The $15 a month is rental - like if you rent a movie for 3 days, you don't have to watch it for 72 hours straight to get your money's worth. Similarly you rent houses/apartments but don't spend all your time in them. And you can rent appliances but generally don't run them non-stop.

Usually one rents their internet connection too and doesn't use it 24/7. The cost of that rental is normally $30 - $80. Add another $15 to that and I get much more use out of internet connection.

It's a bargain no matter how I look at it.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 8:14AM JuliusSeizure said

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Just finished the download off Steam. Not playing it yet, since it wants to download even more, but ehhhh.

Anyway, I don't expect to want to play it after a month, so the subscription doesn't really matter either way to me. I just think I can get a good amount of my money's worth in the 30 days that came with the software, so I'm okay with that.

Posted: Jan 24th 2011 8:16AM Pojoh said

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When so many people have already reached lvl Cap within a week of the game release, definately within the first free month, why sub?

Posted: Jan 24th 2011 8:58PM SupA said

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@Pojoh wow, really? when there adding free endgame content every month? when the pvp is fun and deep? when theres new gear to aquire, new places to explore, new alts to role, new wings of the batcave to raid? lol dude mmos dont really start until you reach max level...
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 8:18AM Shadanwolf said

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My wife and I have allowed ourselves the ONE luxury of each subscribing to one game. She plays DAOC..I.play Vanguard.Unless a game has realm vs realm conflict or is free to play, it will never get considered.Things are so tight we no longer even go to fast food restaurants let alone a regular one.

Posted: Jan 24th 2011 8:20AM Dracones said

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More so the monthly fee and up front price of the game. I've been burned by so many MMO's that I'm real hesitant to put money down on one unless the reviews are glowing, even after the game has been out for a couple months.

The other thing with monthly fees is I don't like to do multiple monthly fees. It's sort of a mental block in that if I'm paying a monthly fee it better be a game I'll be very active in(like WoW).

Without a monthly fee I'll keep a game installed and up to date. Like LOTRO and DDO are both installed and ready to play even though I haven't logged into them in months. Patch notes that sound cool could easily draw me back to either game.

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