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Posted: Jan 17th 2011 6:10PM PaterFrog said

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You reckon SOE is reading this? I don't know wether I should think so or not...

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 6:43PM Joystiq Login Bugs SUCK said

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With the sheer overload of new players I can hardly move in New Halas 12 without tripping over a level 8 character. Yet I see hardly any calls for high level people running the end game.

I know the vets on the older live servers where everyone is at 90 might see a need for some Velious information but on extended where we badly need another server to reduce the crowding maybe less so.

The game is absolutely booming, and it's doing this without advertising. I honestly fear to even think about what would happen should SOE do marketing, I believe it would probably push the server into the stage where you can't log in any more.

I'm glad they are very silent on this because it is the only thing that stops the statement "Ok, go to the docks and click the globe then choose New Halas 20"

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 6:45PM Interitus said

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That isn't the official Velious trailer. I remember the original had the icebreaker boat in it. And I remember thinking it was cool but it probably led to some high level area then was surprised to see it was actually how you got to velious.

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 6:46PM Mistdal said

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seems SOEs new tactic is to not talk about their games....now in the US too and not just EU.

like the other SOE article today, they apparently release planetside next in afew weeks....have a hard time to believe that buut well...atleast planetside next have their own part of the fanfaire "show" this year

they working on EQnext have been confirmed, but no talk about it at all, other than afew concept art shows of well known foe┬┤s from Norrath and Freeport.

either way agreed with this article, people on EQ2flames doing a better job at hyping, Destiny of Velious than SOE atm...actually gotten me abit excited about the new dungeon(s?) -.-

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 6:57PM TheGreatMachine said

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DCUO stole EQ2's marketing budget apparently.

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 7:11PM kballin said

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Hey Karen in your livecast dungeon you just did, I noticed your group never seemed to take damage, did you guys just massively out-gear/out-level the place?

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 7:25PM Artalis said

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Conservatory is the second-easiest of the level 85+ instances hence the easymode feel.

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 7:28PM Phirmware said

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What's the first rule of Destiny of Velious?

Don't talk about Destiny of Velious.

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 8:08PM DiscoJer said

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I think the thing is, EQ2 is pretty much on its way out. As if the server merges didn't make it clear, or the announcement of EQNext, or the F2P experiment...

Meanwhile, SoE has other pans in the microwave. The newly launched DCU for instance.

Companies have a hard time focusing on more than one game at a time. Look at Turbine, they've completely ignored LOTRO for the last couple years when they changed D&DO over to F2P. Despite going F2P itself, we're still waiting for some new content in the game. (Somehow D&DO could get it almost immediately, we have to wait for another year)

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 8:20PM oxlar said

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@DiscoJer

I think EQ2 is going stronger than it has been in years. There are at least 40+ people on at any given time in my guild. Even in the dead of night there are lots of people on. I'm having a blast. Its definitely the best MMO on the market, IMHO.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2011 8:26AM Priz said

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@DiscoJer "I think the thing is, EQ2 is pretty much on its way out. As if the server merges didn't make it clear, or the announcement of EQNext, or the F2P experiment..."

Don't be all doom and gloom. I'd like to point out that server merges are coming because of backend optimizations. Upgraded servers are faster, and the software has been undergoing optimization to handle more players. With that being said, the threshold for Low, Medium, and High population keeps rising so it makes sense to merge servers.

What about the leftover servers? Well, it looks like the F2P servers will at least initially be re-purposed from old EQ2 servers.

Source: http://eq2wire.com/tag/server-upgrades/

Bottom line: Be thankful that there will be more adventurers in your inn to share some ale with. All things will eventually come to an end, so why not enjoy some good company today?

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Posted: Jan 17th 2011 8:45PM Sethisto said

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I played a ton of eq2 on live, but jumped ship when this free to play server launched. The station cash crap is completely destroying this game. I'm not going to even bother with velious at this point. There is no reason when 60% of their production is going to stationcrap.

It's a shame too. EQ2 is an awesome game.

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 8:51PM Nellie said

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I just started playing EQ2 about six months ago, so I didn't know if the lack of expansion info was standard or not for the game!

Of course it doesn't help when expansion-related info on MMO sites (*cough* Massively *cough*) have wrong info (everything this site has posted about the winter rewards), so I'm not even sure where to find info. But I guess there is just none to be found, which is a shame.

I've heard rumblings that the expansion isn't very good, which would be a shame. I've been loving EQ2 so far.

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 9:55PM Yellowdancer said

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I was just looking for expansion info today. I can't figure out if you buy velios, do you get the vampire w/o the pre-order? I don't really want the expansion and just wanted the vampire. Figured I'd save $45 since I have SC already.

SOE has never advertised their games. I went to their site today and was shocked at all the mini-games(ftp I'm guessing) they have running. Some looked interesting. I'm shocked DCUO even has commercials. They just sit back and let the world go by and take the subs they can get.

But I do notice the major blog sites and news services love them some SOE and seem to do the most press for them.

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 9:59PM Karen Bryan said

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@kballin Yeah, we were a little over-geared for the zone, although a few in the group were on alts. And sorry for the sound issues. I didn't realize that my groupmates were louder than I was. I'll definitely fix that next time!

Posted: Jan 17th 2011 10:56PM winterborn said

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EQ2 was put out to pasture a while ago.
They are just beating that poor old hose until there is nothing left.

This so called expansion is just an attempt to patch to gether all the half done stuff from when they had more than 3 poeple working on the game.

Smedbucks ruined yet another game before its time.

Posted: Jan 18th 2011 12:05AM Araxes said

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I've beta tested each expansion from Faydwer on, and I opted not to beta test this one. However, the marketing campaigns you talk about stopped when Scott Hartsman ceased to be producer. Kunark was the last one he worked on and to my knowledge is the last one that had a marketing push like that. TSO did not; SF did not. Now, it could be coincidence, or it could have to do with the fact that they laid off 40 employees last year (or was it 35) and although only 3 of them, to my recollection, came from the EQ2 team, that team has also lost some of its talent to other competitors. (Such is the nature of the business, and who could say no when the likes of RA Salvatore and the aforementioned Mr. Hartsman come calling -- both with lots of promises and very hefty investments on two respective AAA projects?) To top it off, the line of producers has not exactly been stabile. In 3 years we've had 3 producers.

The view is relative to the viewer. One crowded server does not a success make; if EQ2X was as wildly successful as had been hoped for, you can be sure they would have very quickly opened a second server. They've learned some lessons, though, in opening servers too quickly, lest the population dwindle and dilute the player experience with a lot of empty space. Better they don't. And the merges were the best thing to happen to the Live side of the game in years. Kudos to Rothgar, who'd been talking it up for at least 2 years.

That being said, I hardly think EQ2 is out to pasture, as someone above remarked. Having played for 6 years, the game seems as healthy now as it's ever been, frankly. On the Live servers, of course, the endgame is topheavy with players -- but it's the same way even in a game like WoW. There is not an overabundance of lowbies running around giving that hustle and bustle feel that gamers, particularly MMO gamers, seek out and thrive on -- leading to the doom-and-gloom prophets showing their faces and pronouncing the game to be dead. No, it's quite alive.

To get back on track, though -- it might be rose glasses, but in the past two betas, information was really not given until very close to release. The NDA was lifted I think 1 - 2 weeks before release. Since this expac was just pushed back, I wouldn't expect to hear anything for at least another 3 weeks.

Then again, if Smokie reads this, I bet you'll see something posted tomorrow, Karen. ;) He's like that ...

Posted: Jan 18th 2011 12:59AM Ardwulf said

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Look at it this way, Karen... you yourself, in your articles here and with the livestream (which I just watched, by the way,) are probably doing more to promote EQ2 right now than SOE is. For somebody that loves EQ2 as much as you do, their obvious failings in community management and marketing have gotta be aggravating.

Posted: Jan 18th 2011 5:20AM Bhagpuss said

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I have a horrible feeling that Destiny of Velious is going to be a disaster of "Gates of Discord" proportions. The sheer lack of any information, the pushed-back release, the underwhelming nature of the few facts we do know, it all bodes ill.

I'd be more concerned if

a) I wasn't moving to Rift as my main game anyway
b) didn't have another ten levels to do on my EQ2 Silver account if the Velious release rolls SF onto the free content as widely expected
c) didn't know that when I do get around to buying and playing Destiny of Velious, probably much later in the year, most of the major irritations will have been smoothed out and anyway I'll be able to pick it up for a fraction of the full price.

The thing that really set me back, though, was Smed's recent interview in which he confirmed that SOE is working on "a lot" of unnanounced projects *in addition* to DCUO, The Agency, Free Realms PS3, EQNext and PlanetsideNext. "A lot". How much attention do you think an EQ2 expansion is going to get?

Posted: Jan 18th 2011 6:36AM Yellowdancer said

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@Bhagpuss

I think by "a lot", he meant all those small f2p projects they've been doing. I do remember hints of a large IP coming but I donno. I only cared about DCUO because of the comic books.

I don't know what they could do with EQ Next to bring me back in. I walked about from the EQverse content. I had my fill and am satisfied. They said they were getting back to EQ roots but now its going to PS3. I don't imagine the hardcore EQ fans connecting with any console fan. Well, whatever they do I hope it works out. I do think SOE makes good products compared to the rest of the industry. I'm not so wet between the ears that I hate them because the next man does.
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