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Posted: Jan 13th 2011 5:12PM ShivanSwordsman said

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Oh joy. It's another pay to play. That uses the same tree system as World of Warcraft. And can't wait to tell us how amazing it is and how it's going to beat the pants off WoW. Well, I certainly haven't seen that before... *Eyes Aion*

See you guys when it goes F2P.

Posted: Jan 13th 2011 5:26PM ManaByte said

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@ShivanSwordsman There's not a facepalm.gif big enough for your comment.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2011 5:32PM Wild Colors said

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@ShivanSwordsman

It is actually less similar than it appears. I certainly agree that it is more in WoW's family than it is a sandbox (or anything incredibly new).

The skills trees look much more similar to WoW than they are. The easiest way to describe it (and this isn't perfectly accurate, so please forgive me), is that you start off by choosing an archetype - warrior, cleric, mage, or rogue. Then, as you progress up to level 7 or so (this has differed a little in each beta round so far) you collect three different "souls." Each soul becomes one tree in your talent pane. There are a total of 10-12 souls in each archetype. Some are tank-like, some are healers, some are pet classes, some are damage dealers (yes, you can have a rogue or cleric tank, and a mage healer, and that sort of thing).

So, the end result that you saw in the video looks a bit like WoW, but you get there very differently, and the skill trees interact in very different ways (the Roots system also seems trivial at first, but becomes very meaningful when you consider different builds).

In short, Rift is certain in WoW's family, but it's not a WoW clone. People who enjoy WoW but are bored of Azeroth will probably enjoy it.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2011 6:28PM Graill440 said

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@ShivanSwordsman

You provide great entertainment.

Of course folks like you can have this steak dinner free of charge too, you can eat all the veggies, side dishes and gravy you want, if you want the steak however you need to purchase that. F2P, ignorant.

Its people like you that think the internet tubes wont reach your side of town.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2011 8:16PM Averice said

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@ShivanSwordsman Just get smarter with your buying: play demo's/trials, and find a game you actually enjoy. It sounds like you might want to read up on minimum specs and find out what your computer is capable of too, if you're buying games that work fine for other people but don't work for you.

Kind of strange you only complain about p2p in your first post, but then when someone calls you out on it you actually complain about the entire industry. I agree that the industry does not always appease. I won't be buying any cryptic games until I've tried them first, I won't be buying anymore total war games without trying them first, or anything made by the total war guys for that matter, shogun2 already looks like major fail imo.

If you like games then you can continue to enjoy them, you just have to watch who you trust. Mmm... the best thing to do is get a friend who just buys everything and test them there!
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Posted: Jan 13th 2011 9:16PM Utakata said

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One of the other unfortunate things about the F2P trend, is it has brought out it's own brand of obnoxious trolls. I'm not even sure Beau Hindman
would disagree with that one. /sigh
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Posted: Jan 14th 2011 5:32AM BigAndShiny said

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Buster. ill see you in Guild Wars 2. Undoubtedy [yes i have played both] a better game.
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Posted: Jan 14th 2011 11:29AM Valdamar said

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@BigAndShiny
That's only if ShivanSwordsman is willing to pay for GW2's box - he might be one of those F2P folks that want everything for free and a pretty little ribbon tied on top of it as well :p

I think we all know Guild Wars 2 is going to be a more innovative and (hopefully) better game for those of us craving something fresh, but the people who like WoW yet are bored of WoW after so many years playing it probably aren't going to like GW2 as it will be too different for them - Rift:PoT will probably suit those people fine.

After all, I bet it's only a small minority of WoW's 12 million subscribers that have been playing it for the entirety of the last 5 years - there may be an awful lot of ex-WoW players looking for another WoW, similar but different. We won't know how many until we see how Rift:PoT is doing a year after launch - we may be surprised.
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Posted: Jan 15th 2011 7:26PM ShivanSwordsman said

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@Valdamar

Actually, yes, I'll be getting Guild Wars 2. I bought Guild Wars, every single expansion for it (I pre-ordered Eye of the North), and I have since stood on my soap box pointing to Guild Wars as the saving grace for every game maker since. Sure it's a CORPG, by what they say, but I loved the damn thing to reeses pieces. However, the removal of a solid healer class scares me, and intrigues me.

No, I just want to pay for the game once. I'm sure that's too much to ask for nowadays, but several games have done it right. I catdch the sales on LOTRO and I've spent maybe close to $30 and own almost all adventure packs, inventory slots, and the expansions, all by deed farming. I don't want everything for free, but so help me if I pay a box price for a game, I better own it, all the content, and be able to pay additionally for extra content (ALA adventure packs/expansion packs).

I'm old school, guys. When a game came out, I played a flat rate, and anything extra generally came from an expansion, or when they jumped to the next game after a few years. Diablo 2 and the Lord of Destruction expansion, Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles. How much did Blizzard add to Diablo 2 for free after the launch of LOD? That was some amazing support, and they still keep the servers up, too.

Nowadays I'm lucky to get the entire game when I buy it, as most companies put some sort of "first day DLC" and a farkton of DRM in the game, so if you play legit, it's just that much more agonizing for you. In this case, I have to pay a monthly fee just to access any of the game, even though I bought the game for $50. I realize they need money to run the servers, but I bought the game. I paid for it. So help me [insert deity here] I better get to play it. I'm sorry, that's just how it goes with me.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2011 5:13PM Ryukan said

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Those shoulder pieces look heavy and awkward.

Also, I really like the multiclass and role switching elements of this game...a lot.

Posted: Jan 14th 2011 11:31AM Valdamar said

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@Ryukan
Compared to WoW's massive candy-coloured shoulderpads those look very restrained and almost believable ;)
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Posted: Jan 13th 2011 5:24PM meanieme said

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Played in the beta event last weekend and it was awesome fun - really looking forward to this one now.

Posted: Jan 13th 2011 5:38PM Zuljundwumn said

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Too much explosions and éléctricity for a simple warrior.

Posted: Jan 14th 2011 11:31AM Valdamar said

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You can turn the particle effects down - that's what I did in beta.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2011 5:40PM Taemys said

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I've been having a TON of fun with my warrior in Rift, and it's the class I play least in other MMOs.

Posted: Jan 13th 2011 5:48PM OxfordDon said

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My wife and I have been in all 4 betas, and have now preordered as it has her seal of approval, which believe me, is a big thing since she is very high maintenance when it comes to MMOs. In fact we actually met in the days of 40 man hardcore raids, back when WoW was a proper game, way before the days of welfare epics and easy mode. Ahh, the nostalgia.

Posted: Jan 13th 2011 9:21PM Utakata said

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I'm not sure the game is meant to appeal to hardcore nutters. But I take this is as a bad sign.
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Posted: Jan 14th 2011 5:39AM OxfordDon said

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@Utakata Sorry Utakata, I think I have misled you there, we aren't hardcore nutters anymore, we veer more toward the fluffy casual these days. My (poorly made) point was that we are both rather jaded gamers these days having tried anything and everything in the past few years, and have now found a game we believe we can call home for a while. Although unless Bioware drop the ball very badly there is another temptress waiting in the wings.
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Posted: Jan 14th 2011 11:33AM Valdamar said

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@OxfordDon
Nobody remains hardcore nutters forever - thank goodness ;)
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Posted: Jan 13th 2011 5:50PM Coozer said

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Wow...This actually looks better than World of Warcraft. O.O All hail Rift....

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