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Posted: Jan 10th 2011 8:17AM Platypus Man said

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I game hop. A lot. So much so that I've never really cultivated more than handful of long-term gaming friendships over the last ten years or so. I am envious of groups of gamers that stick together and move from game to game more or less as a unit, but I also know that my attention span is only slightly longer than a gnat's so I tend to get bored of a game before the folks I'm playing with do.

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 8:25AM Thac0 said

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@Platypus Man This tends to be the case with me as well I get bored and hop and I don't have a network of folks to play with. Some good friends I have made still play the same game 7 years later and i can find them but I have no relationships that hop with me.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2011 8:28AM Pewpdaddy said

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I have a few folks that hop around with me, maybe if even they wait it out a bit longer than I do... Since my time in EQ I never hesitate should I get the urge to "jump ship". .. =]

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 8:40AM PaterFrog said

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I'm a hoppaholic. I'm so bad, that I've been to hundreds of guilds in dozens of different games and I can't remember the name of one.
Since I don't hop by for longer than a week, very rarely a full two-week-hop, I almost never build any hops preventing relationships. So while I could say, hundreds of them broke, I also can't really say that I lost more than half a dozen.
Never found anybody who wouldn't mind to hop around with me, like that anyway. The few hoppers somehow always stopped hopping along the hop somewhere.

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 8:59AM Ocho said

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I am an unabashed game-hopper, and now with the f2p transitions, MMO hopping doesn't cost that much anymore. I have 1 sub, WoW, 1 non-sub, GW, 1 f2p, LotRO, and 1 lifetime account, STO, and I hop between them all because I simply enjoy them all and can't see giving any of them up. Does this make me a bad MMO player? To most people, yeah, probably. However, it hasn't hurt any of the relationships I've formed in game. I'm not a riader and not in any raiding guilds, so I have no strict gaming commitments. And since I have no strict "group" that I game with, I'm not losing anyone there either.

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 9:23AM markt50 said

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Yep, I'm a big game hopper as well, it annoys a lot of my friends and work colleagues who I game with. They all tend to play the same game, which is WoW, and they have no interest in trying other games at all which I personally find a tad dissapointing. I tend to resub to WoW for a few months at the launch of a new expansion such as recently with Cata, but within a month or two I find myself eyeing up other mmo's.

I'm one of those who is there for most mmo launches, I've purchased so many launch day mmo's and usually get my money's worth out of the first 30 free days they come with. I have a rule that I only allow myself to subscribe to 3 games at a time, anymore is just a waste of money as I wouldn't have the time to play. I cycle those 3 subscriptions around various games at different times. At the minute I'm subbed to Eve, AoC and Wow. but Wow will get dropped once Rift is launched, and the cycle continues :)

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 10:54AM PaterFrog said

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@markt50 Woaha, three games at a time? That's expensive! You usually playing all those three games in one month?
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Posted: Jan 10th 2011 12:57PM markt50 said

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@PaterFrog

Yep, I usually have 3 running subs every month, but will rotate the games I'm subbed to as they fall in and out of favour. I don't find it too expensive at all really, I decided to give up drinking a long time ago, but would often spend the cost of 3 montly subs on one night of drinking in the past, so I see it as paying for a hobby I enjoy for a full month that is better than getting wasted out of my head for a single night :)
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Posted: Jan 11th 2011 9:21AM PaterFrog said

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@markt50 Okay, have fun anyway. :D
I don't drink and I still rarely have the money for more than one sub.
You going to try GW2?
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Posted: Jan 10th 2011 9:31AM MMOaddict said

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I'm the same as everyone above. I just can't get enough of the genre. Hence why I love games that cater to the solo crowd. I'm not opposed to groups or guilds, I'm just a very solo person. Almost like a hermit who only interacts with people when I need something hehe.

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 9:38AM Colin said

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@MMOaddict

I definitely see where you're coming from, I'm pretty much the same way. Unfortunately I realized that the best guaranteed soloing experiences are, y'know, cheap single player games. So I had to give up on my favourite genre; too expensive for me right now...
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Posted: Jan 10th 2011 9:57AM Syesta said

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Set a schedule, and there is little impact.

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 10:45AM Rihahn said

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Similar to all of the above... I'm in the industry, so it's in my best interest to sample everyone else's dog food as well as eat my own - so I tend to try just about everything that comes out for 30-60 days minimum.

I have few long-term relationships with MMOs... Was was in Shadownbane until they pulled the literal plug, and I pay Virtrium yearly so that my Dragon in Istaria can keep his lair in one piece even though I only play for 60 days a year, but that's it.

This of course stresses real-world friends that I play with, who are generally enamored with WoW and can't conceive of wanting to play anything else - then again WoW was their first so they don't really know what they're missing. I started in UO back in the mid 90's...

Also as above, I think Rift is gonna be my next semi-long term MMO relationship... It's about 95% of what I'm looking for - it just needs a bit deeper race selection and it'll be 100%. I guess that's what expansions are for. :)

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 11:31AM LordBeefy said

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It's remarkable how strong those MMO friendships can seem when you're grouping and having fun with people you know in game.

However, they're often not strong enough to survive someone deciding they don't want to play anymore.

Obviously you have family members playing together, players that move game together and there are occasions when people form real life bonds but on the whole MMO friendship is fragile in nature.

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 5:06PM Vestas said

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@LordBeefy

On the same hand, it's remarkable how strong the relationships ARE. I made friends in Everquest over 11 years ago. I'm still in close contact with several, in fact even had the chance to offer a job to two of them in the past 4 years. And karma works both ways, I have friends from EQII from 6 years ago that I now actually work with. All because of meeting and playing with people online.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2011 10:30PM Bewoulf said

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@LordBeefy
Oh how true your comment is. I was on FFXI for years with some friends who I thought would be my best friends for the rest of my life. Then I canceled my subscription and I talk to them maybe twice a year and lately it's been a full year since I've talked to them. I've recently started my account back up where they have moved on. It makes me kind of sad because you have all these memories of adventure and danger.

This is why I think MMOs are so much deeper than offline games. Offline games have amazing stories and characters, but there is an emotional detachment. In MMOs, especially if you make some really good friends, there's this emotional attachment that sticks with you.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2011 5:13PM Vestas said

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I hop games a lot. As others have said, not only do I find the genre to be one of my favorites, I have professional reasons why I like to pay attention to what the market is doing. Sure, it means I drop $50 on a steaming pile of poo from time to time. But one of my pet peeves is people who offer opinions on games they've never played, so I refuse to be one of them!

It /is/ detrimental to in game friendships. I have friends from my 6 years of playing EQ back when it launched. A few, out of over 50 are still people I talk with almost every day. In EQII the folks I played with every day I'm still in contact with but the larger group of arbitrary guild mates I do not stay in touch with. It's more common if I choose to Roleplay that the instant I leave the game for another, I leave those friends behind. Perhaps because in RP I'm even further dissaociated from the other people.

The real measure is whether the friendship in game extends to out of game friendship. If we get to the point where we share contact information, perhaps even meet up for a dinner/bar/movie night as I pass through their home town. Or even engage in conversation about things unrelated to the game. I.E. once I get to know the real person for more than their in game behavior, the odds of the friendship surviving the game are good. This of course requires both parties to actually want that from their gaming experience, which in this day and age of WoW'ified selfish behavior, is pretty rare.

I do keep a short friends list of people whom I notify if I'm playing a new game. Not all of these are genuine regular friends but they are "gaming buddies". And I always put a shout out to see if anyone else is trying the new shiny object. By and large I try the "most" games of my friends, but I can almost always find an old buddy whose trying the new thing.

In the end I'm a pretty rare bird though. I play MMO's specifically to be social, to make friends and find people to play with. I'm far less interested in solo grinding my way through it. As such, I tend to make more friends and know more people in games than otherwise.

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 10:32PM Romanime said

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Hello my name is Romanime, and I'm a MMO-Hopper.

Seriously though it's really bad.
So bad in fact that I've never reached the cap of any MMO I've ever played.
And there have been dozens.
The highest I've ever gotten was lvl 56 in Runescape(my first mmo)
Right now I'm at my second highest lvl 30 in Wizards101.
I actually came back to the game after a long hiatus, and as soon as I bought my two months sunscription I'm feeling the pull to start playing Wow again.
I'm trying to fight, but the need is really strong esp. because it's the only mmo where I have a IRL friend who plays.
The longest I was ever in a Guild was a week, but they disbanded so it wasnt my fault it was a pretty big one to, but the leader had to take a break for IRL problems.

I'm thinking about buying Guild Wars 2, because I can go back to it anytime I want after phasing out, but I'm not sure my laptop would be able to handle it lol.

Posted: Jan 11th 2011 1:16AM Tristik said

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I've game hopped quite a bit. The problem is, I'm usually the only one that goes. So even if it's a good game, I end up missing those relationships I've had for 5+ years with other people and end up back in WoW again with them.

Posted: Jan 11th 2011 5:35PM Valdamar said

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It doesn't, because I don't game-hop. Sure, I quit games fairly often and I don't go back (generally) so I leave a lot of people behind, but usually they're not the kind of people who would have kept in touch with me, or that I'd have stayed in touch with, for very long. Easy come, easy go.

My real life friends, and the only online-only friend I've stuck with through several MMOs, generally drift between MMOs as often as I do and we tend to gravitate towards the same kinds of games, so I can usually count on at least a couple of them being in the same game as me at roughly the same time. Other than that I don't pressure anyone to move with me - everyone has to play the games they enjoy, regardless of who is there with them - I just coordinate with them, so we always know where each other are playing - and often when one of us ends up without a game to play we'll go join another friend in a game they're playing and recommend.

Maybe I'm a bit callous but I find friends are easy to make, so I can afford to lose some along the way, whether it's losing touch temporarily or permanently - that applies to RL friends but goes doubly for online-only friends. The ones that are worth keeping close, well, I'll stick with them and generally they'll stick with me, and we find ourselves in the same games quite often because we gravitate towards each other and the same types of games.

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