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Posted: Jan 9th 2011 7:34PM Irem said

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Oooh, thank you! :D I really liked mining when I tried EVE, for some reason--like you said, it's relaxing. This will be really helpful when I give the game another try.

Posted: Jan 9th 2011 7:58PM slash beast said

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Hulk pilot reporting in!

I approve this guide. *thumbs up*

Posted: Jan 9th 2011 11:14PM deathmango said

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Eve is probably the most interesting mmo out there. I read all the articles however, I've never played it. Maybe some day I'll get around to playing it. Really enjoyed the article!

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 12:01AM yearofshorty said

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@deathmango
When you manage to give EvE online a chance, make sure you go in knowing that it'll probably confuse you at first.
The game has the steepest learning curve of any game i've played and just when you think you've got it down, more will pop up that you need to learn.
all in all the stories that you hear on this site and others are all true and equally as entertaining to everyone and emersive to the universe as they sound.
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Posted: Jan 9th 2011 11:51PM Vundal said

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I had a great mining ship...If i remember i actually got a hulk a lil while b4 i took a break from eve. My corp and I always mined together, hauling in millions of isk an hour. it was great. If your more into the mining and money aspects of Eve, get yourself a mining guild (connected /allied to a pvp guild ? even better! ) you wont be bored

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 9:06AM ScottishViking said

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OK, so, I'm on hiatus from EVE. When I go back, I'd like to have a fresh start. And one thing I haven't done is mining.

The thought of highsec mining makes me want to die a little. Generally speaking, is lowsec mining more dangerous than nullsec mining?

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 9:49AM Bartlebe said

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@ScottishViking

Low sec anything is more dangerous, let alone mining. Low sec mining is just asking to get killed or ransomed. Although, that is where some of the more juicier minerals are at. Part of the fun.

To dangerous for my taste. I'd have to go as part of a mining OP.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2011 9:51AM slash beast said

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@ScottishViking Remove the idea of low sec mining from your head entirely.

If you mine it's either in: High sec, Nullsec or W-Space.

Reason is the risk v reward for mining in lowsec is nowhere near worth it. Especially now since pyroxeres is worth more than some nullsec ores.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2011 11:00AM ScottishViking said

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@slash beast
@Bartlebe

Any suggestions about a good mining/escort duo? My pilot is not tuned to mine, and so in the interim while, I may team up with a miner buddy for escort duties. Does it make any kind of sense for a single miner to have an escort? And if so, what kind of ship? (I'm well-trained for all Minmatar frigate types, BCs and a few Tech 2 cruisers.)
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Posted: Jan 10th 2011 10:22AM Kaahn Stewart said

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The most important tip while mining:

Never leave yourself unattended for extended periods of time!

This is EVE we're talking about, after all.

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 11:09AM Maxsim Goratiev said

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"If you become the victim of ore theft, the best course of action is to cut your losses and switch to a safer ninja-mining strategy."
If you are in a decent corp, you should always have a couple bds willing to help deal with the bastard, Power in numbers, have a couple guys get into combat ships and engage the bastard. Then watch your mates tae hit apart enjoy getting a kill with a mining barge. And hey, if you loose a ship, it's pvp. Get another one. BIgger, tougher, better. Learn how they tricked you. That woun't work once again.

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 11:46AM DemonXaphan said

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Usually good high sec mining involves 0.5 isolated back end system with less than 20 people and npc rats as your companions. Never mine in low sec unless your part of a armed mining ops and null sec is always better to mine alone most time or find a wormhole mining ops corp.

Try to get into a retriever within a week for a beginner miner and read http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Haladas_Mining_Guide, no miner should mine without reading this guide.

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 9:15PM Johny B said

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Death to miners !

Posted: Jan 10th 2011 10:10PM Xilmar said

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As many have stated, NEVER EVER mine in low sec unless you're actually on bait duty. Like everything else, the rewards in low sec are higher than empire, but barely... not nearly high enough to make it worth while.

If you're a dedicated miner like myself (got every skill except drone interfacing 5 and mining director 5 on orca flying alt), you learn a few tricks - for high sec mining, since this is mining 101.

Try to avoid can mining. Can flippers will become extremely annoying very fast. That's why a hauler will always be your best friend. It works out to have 2 people mining and 1 hauling than all 3 can mining.

Don't mouth off in local chat. Contrary to popular belief, most players in eve are decent people. But you will be the victim of a suicide gank or a war declaration (if you're in a player run corporation) if you're acting stupid. If you act though, be prepared to back it up with some delicious pewpew.

Avoid high population systems. It's more entertaining, i know, but it's a pain. more miners in a belt at the same time, belts are stripped quickly, most valuable ore is gone in the first couple hours, people steal ore or bump you all the time.

Choose your location carefully. I'm actually surprised this wasn't covered in the article, it's one of the most important things a good miner can do. there are many factors, like security status and region, stations (owners and facilities), position relative to low sec, trading hubs, high quality lvl4 mission agents, travel routes and your other in game activities, hostile corps, etc.

Don't be stupid. If you are, you're likely to suffer one way or another. Just use your brain, have at least a "oh shi-" plan, put some defensive modules on your med slots, watch the belt for incoming people and keep an eye on local. And if you're a new player, learn to love a small dose of paranoia. It doesn't hurt in empire and will be very useful once you move to 0.0 or low sec.

Reprocess the ore. try and get your skills and standings high enough for a perfect reprocess as soon as possible. It's not right to mine 1 hour and only get 50 minutes worth of minerals. reprocess the ore and only sell the minerals.

Read Halada's guide. search it on google and browse it. It's fairly old, but still remains the bible of all miners.

Get in a corp and for the love of god, treat the orca pilots nice. they have some juicy bonuses and almost 200k m3 of cargo, making them nice buffs for your isk/hour ratio.

And remember folks...carebears aren't people

Posted: Jan 11th 2011 6:12AM WolvenSpectre said

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Another thing you left out of your guide as an option is the use of Secured Containers anchored in space.

They prevent can flippers and ore thieves from just taking your ore. so if you are mining in a location regularly or you have set up time before your op you can set up a series of cans (they don't hold allot compared to Jet Cans). If it is a relatively low population/mining activity system the secure containers will quickly pay for themselves and make it viable to just leave them there. Unless the other miners are teritorial, it will cost them more in time/ammunition to blow them up than they are worth.

Posted: Jan 12th 2011 12:23AM Marz said

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Two things about mining in EVE.

First: There are certain missions that have a ton of Veldspar asteroids in them. After you kill all the ships as part of the mission, you come back and mine the asteroids. It is much safer to leave a jet can in mission space than it is mining a belt.

Second: If you are serious about mining, get a second account and train that character to be a Hauler, transfer the ore from the miner to the hauler is much via Jet Can is much safer than leaving a jet can while you mine. Also if you don't want to get a second account get a friend to come with a hauler and split the ore.

A final note. You get more isk when selling the higher ores but you get more ore per cycle when mining Veldspar and Pyrite. Risk vs isk. When you account for the ships you will lose mining in 00 and low sec it is more cost effective to just go for the common ore.

Posted: Jan 12th 2011 12:27AM Marz said

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This is what I mean to say, hopefully this makes more sense.

Second: If you are serious about mining, get a second account and train that character to be a Hauler. Transferring the ore from the miner to the hauler, via Jet Can, is much safer than leaving a jet can while you mine.

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