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Posted: Jan 6th 2011 2:45PM Nepentheia said

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Good. If they can proudly state how much money they have been making, I don't *EVER* want to hear any excuses from Turbine about having to "make tough decisions" on what content to cut or "not having enough man-power" to accomplish resolving outstanding issues, bug-fixes, and promises made long ago.

Posted: Jan 6th 2011 2:58PM Zuljundwumn said

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Well, now that turbine have money, maybe we'll finally get a new community manager on the french forums after the departure of 1st1 months ago.
And maybe we'll get proper translation.
And maybe the texts will finally fit into the textboxes.
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Haha.

Posted: Jan 6th 2011 4:17PM Droniac said

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@Zuljundwumn The party responsible for all of that is Codemasters, not Turbine. Which means that you'll never see any of that, because the last time Codemasters listened to its paying customers was when hell froze over.

Maybe Turbine will pull their DDO trick and take over the European LotRO service. That's the best we can hope for.
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Posted: Jan 6th 2011 3:05PM Dumac said

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Oh jeez, non combat pets. Hey massively, why don't you do a daily grind on non combat pets?

Posted: Jan 6th 2011 3:21PM Nandini said

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In the title, you say that revenue has tripled. In the article, you state that profits have tripled. There is a big difference.

In the interview, Adam Mersky states that revenues have tripled. We have no idea how this has affected the profitability of the game. For example, if they are spending 3x more on operations, marketing, development, and support, profits might not be impacted at all.

Of course, there's no evidence of these increased expenditures, so all this revenue may be going right into WB's pocket as profit.

Posted: Jan 6th 2011 4:32PM Plastic said

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@Nandini

Good catch. Companies rarely ever announce profits over revenue, and for good reason; revenue is a much better indicator of the demand for a product.
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Posted: Jan 6th 2011 5:34PM MrsAngelD said

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Great they are making more money, so how about they spend some of it on Customer Service. The forum is filling up with complaints of turbines bad customer service, as well as their inability to actually roll your characters back if your account is hacked.

Posted: Jan 6th 2011 5:36PM Lethality said

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@MrsAngelD Exactly right.

People underestimate the infrastructure Blizzard has in place... and I guarantee you Turbine is not willing to make that kind of investment.
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Posted: Jan 6th 2011 5:43PM syklonis said

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Hopefully these "cosmetic changes" spoken of will include re-doing the god awful character models that everyone has asked for since the game first came out. Get on it Turbine!!

Posted: Jan 6th 2011 6:15PM claytondora said

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While this is good news for turbine, I could frankly care less about the game or the company in question. For me, and I'm sure a good portion of the online game development community, this means that F2P can be a very lucrative business model. Hopefully this will entice other dev houses to consider such a money-making strategy with their games. I always like the option to try a game, wade around a bit in its waters to see if its amicable, and then invest cash in it.

Posted: Jan 6th 2011 6:42PM cored said

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Good for them. That being said, I'd never play a F2P game.

Posted: Jan 6th 2011 7:28PM winterborn said

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I played at launch and when Moria came out and could only stand a few weeks looking at the AC2 character models. The world looks great, the game plays well and even the nickle&dime system is not that bad now that they included over lvl 20 content.

I just can not get over the Tuxedo T-Shirt/Painted Potato Sack looking skins.

More money does not mean more dev. time for the game. It usualy means another BMW for Smedbucks.

Posted: Jan 6th 2011 7:48PM WyattEarp89 said

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I am glad to see Turbine is making more money since the switch. Any company that can increase their profits in this economy should be proud. I am looking forward to what they have planned for Lotro this year!

And as for the character models... I really don't see the problem with them. They seem fine to me, yes they do not look as good as AoC or Tera and even Aion. But still they are not THAT bad in my opinion. Having been playing this game since 2007 I never once thought "man I wish Turbine would redo these crapy character models".

Posted: Jan 6th 2011 10:52PM tororosso said

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Here we go again typical Turbine keep patting their own backs.
At the same time continuing to fail in releasing expansions for its VIP members. Worst MMO company in supporting their paying customers to tell you all the truth. LOTRO has the highest content debt to its paying customers out of all high profile MMO this has been happening for years now.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 4:55AM Sean D said

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This is partly because Turbine is overcharging for some upgrades that are only available in the store, such as the final Vault upgrades, which cost (according to https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0As1T2ZXLPqhTdE05T21qYklYRFF3emVuM18zTnU0aGc&hl=en#gid=0) $13.85 and $15.40, respectively if you're not a VIP. If you are a VIP (you're already paying $15.00/mo. and are receiving 500 TPs/mo. in exchange), you're still shelling out around $22.00 if you buy both these upgrades for one character in the same month (as opposed to waiting for about 3.8 months to accumulate the needed points). That's for 30 extra vault slots...when you're already paying $15.00/mo. to play the game as a VIP, which means a VIP, in one month pays $37.00 for 30 vault slots.

I'd drop my VIP, but I'm afraid I'd be paying even more money to play the game than I am already.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 6:04AM ArhK said

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@Sean D
Wow, impressive... that's a shame..... Seriously, I hate this system, how is it possible to tell a guy paying a sub "Yes, you need to pay MORE to get this upgrade, I don't care about your sub"...

I hate this....T_T
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 9:24AM Tom L said

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@Sean D: C'mon. Why would you buy vault upgrades with TP when you can spend in-game gold on it? You get 500 TP/month plus whatever you earn in game, and if you actually play it's hard not to earn 200/month just through doing things. I can see if you're at max level and and OCD deed completionist before the F2P switch being an issue, but then you would have gotten 4000 points back in September to buy the things like Shared Storage and Wardrobe space.

No 500 TP's doesn't go very far at the store, but it represents functionality you didn't have before the F2P conversion, ie. deed accelerators and buying off virtues. They also added in a lot of the new stuff to the list of things you can buy with destiny points, like accelerated XP from kills and Skirmish Mark accelerators.

Ta,
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 9:42AM Tom L said

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@ArhK: Sean is blatantly misrepresenting the system. Nothing has changed about being a sub pre and post F2P. There are just more things available, some of which were only available to those who bought certain upgrades before F2P. Now they are for a price which you can spend either time or money on. IF you want to grind out the points you can do that, if you want to spend money and conserve your time that's available as well.

The numbers he's banding about are for optional shared storage space between toons. If you have multiple toons to shuttle gear between then you also have had multiple opportunities and time to grind out the TP's through normal play to pay for them on top of your monthly stipend.

What Sean is complaining about is that he feels as a VIP he should have full access to all of everything at all times. I disagree with that.

I have 5 active toons and make do with only 2 shared storage upgrades and 1 wardrobe upgrade and have never spent a dime beyond my sub fee. For having been a sub for 15 months when F2P happened Turbine gave me over 2000 TP's for my past patronage,. After 3 months of regular play (and buying a number of things in the Store) I have nearly 1500 TP's available to spend right now. I pay on a 3 month sub fee of $29.97/3months or $9.99/month. I'm banking points now b/c I may decide to unsub at some point in the future (to sub to DCUO) and would like to keep full functionality. It's a fair system that rewards people who play the game, not those who complain about it.

How much more steak do you want with that free sex?

It amazes me how entrenched the sense of entitlement that exists in people's minds.

Ta,
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:54AM ArhK said

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@Tom L
Ok, thanks a lot for the clarification ! :)

I may retry it one of these days then...
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 6:58PM Tom L said

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@ArhK: you're welcome. Glad to be of service.

Ta,
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