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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:08AM Grumms said

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I love PvP.

But it can tend to get frustrating.
Especially when classes are imbalanced (WoW arenas mostly)

Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:17AM ChangWang said

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never cared for world PvP. It always seems to be a gankfest

Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:21AM Bartlebe said

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I enjoy PvP and the competitive side of fighting against other players.

I hate the communities and people that PvP games attract. Elitist, e-peen waving, insult hurling, noob crushing, mouth breathers. The worst kind of MMO player.

Posted: Jan 11th 2011 12:33PM StClair said

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@Bartlebe:
This, so much.
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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:23AM Bearcon53pointsix said

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I don't mind pvp per se, but I typically don't participate in it much or roll on pvp servers for a few reasons.

1. I'm not the type of person who gets satisfaction from messing with rl other persons.

2. I do not and cannot derive happiness from ganking, heck in WoW I didn't even kill critters, I don't understand the pleasure or ego derived from killing players who have no hope to defend themselves.

3. I have yet to meet a pvper who either pvped because they get total satisfaction from dominating other players(these people also try to dominate other people in rl situations)
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They love to one shot things, but when they find themselves in challenging situations they run like cowards.

If the story takes place in a war ridden world, Chances are I will roll pvp simply because the story can make or break a game for me.
I can tolerate others killing lowbies for the sake of the story etc.

but lets face it, Most pvpers do it for one of the reasons originally stated, If I ever encounter a pvp game where the players don't need constant ego boosting, or are so fail at their rl that they have to gank lowbies to feel good about themselves, I will have found an awesome pvp game for sure.

Posted: Jan 5th 2011 11:55AM bcrfan said

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@Bearcon53pointsix cause when a mob is whooping your buttox you stand there and take it. oh please.
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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 6:38PM Bearcon53pointsix said

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@bcrfan

that comment is embarrassing don't you think?

When I am fighting an opponent equal or near equal my level or strength etc, No, I do not run away....If I am losing, I alter my fight plan, think harder about how the fight is going and how I can win....and do everything in my power to pull out said win, Even if said win ends with me only having 1 hp left.

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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:25AM xBludx said

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I love pvp but hate griefing. That is not pvp. It is sociopath v defenseless whomever.

I need pvp in any game I play because I enjoy the challenge. Game designers need to make it so there can be meaningful pvp without griefing.

Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:55AM Coldbrand said

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@xBludx Engaging in anti-social behavior does not automatically make one a sociopath. Suck it up buddy.
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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 9:03AM Ayenn said

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@Coldbrand

Actually compulsive anti-social behavior is, by definition, sociopolitical behavior. Study your psychology.
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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:25AM Cpuser said

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PvP is rarely a fair(meaning evenly matched) fight. Ninety percent of open world PvP is a pure ganking. Game makers put PvP in as a way of increasing subscriptions. PvP doesn't fit my concept/definition of want an MMORPG is. There are plenty of first person shooters...go play em'.

Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:25AM Myopic Aardvark said

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I play to relax - and like teaming, I find my enjoyment based on what other people want to do is practically non-existent.

MMO worlds are unlike anything in single player games, but being forced to PvP (where I'm dependent on other people either showing up or playing the game fairly) or teaming (most team missions when it's random pick up groups end up being "Yaay, we're teamed, now wait for me to go do random things before we go!), puts me off PvP in MMOs.

For my PvP stuff, I'll fire up L4D or TF2 - my MMO stuff is my adventure as I want it, not dependent on anyone else other than my wife/duo partner, who's sitting just behind me as we play.

I always try PvP when I start a new MMO - so far, I've never found anything which grabs my interest.

Posted: Jan 5th 2011 2:23PM Dril said

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@Myopic Aardvark

Agreed on the part of using other games for PvP. Yes, MMO PvP does require skill to do exceptionally well, but the simple fact is: it's an RPG. There are always numbers or arbitrary defining characteristics that can override skill. Hell, even Darkfall, which does have twitch-based combat, still has the meaningless stat counter that tells you how good you can be.

I like relying on my own skill to kill other players, and learning from it. I just don't get that in MMOs; either there's very little chance of me beating them anyway (gear, rock-paper-scissors etc) or trawling through the combat log to see what, precisely I could have done. I play CoD, TF2 and, more than anything, Mount&Blade: Warband, for my PvP.
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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:28AM augustgrace said

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UO through DAoC, and even early SB, I loved pvp. However by the time WAR came out I had become almost strictly a pve player. Still love pvp, but hate pvpers (not all, I'm generalizing). At some point when the genre began really picking up in popularity we started getting some really nasty obscene players in the pvp community. Now the pvp community always attracted a certain element of distasteful people, but early on those people were out numbered still by a core of competitive but still human players. I think the pvp "game" has become an extension of the bile that comes with anonymity. When people don't know who you are and there are no consequences a growing number of people act out in increasingly alarming ways.

The closest I've come to finding a decent pvp community was monster play in lotro a couple years ago.

Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:29AM OxfordDon said

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A Muslim scholar once said "Although not all Muslims are terrorists, almost all terrorists are Muslims, and the blurring of this distinction makes a great problem". Similarly, many players' experience of PvP involves gankers, griefers and lowlife trash talking kids. I'm sure many PvPers are very nice people, who respect the Care Bears,but my experience of PvP doesn't seem to involve those.

Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:52AM Cpuser said

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Really? You think crediting this quote to a "Muslim Scholar" gives it more legitimacy? Car bombs and A-bombs.....One's terrorism, one's not?
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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 9:02AM OxfordDon said

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@Cpuser Not sure I understand your point. Are you saying the quote isn't true, or doesn't make sense? I don't get what it has to do with car bombs and A bombs at all.
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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 9:05AM OxfordDon said

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@Cpuser Or are you in fact suggesting that all Muslims ARE terrorists??
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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 9:07AM Ayenn said

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@Cpuser
Both are unbridled brutalization. The devil is in the details.

@OxfordDon
The quote and the anecdote are apt.
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Posted: Jan 5th 2011 8:29AM ThePeon25 said

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I would like PVP if they now how to balance the pvp or classes right.
And I would like PVP even more if other players was not such assholes when they won or you won over them.

and WoT would be even more fun pvp when EU server come so you donĀ“t lose all the time thanks to the fking lagg.

GVG or RVR or what ever you wanna call it is more fun and ppls tend to be much nicer then.

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