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Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 9:31AM Stoneywall said

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I like the evil elves, and wish for the extermination of the good elves lol. In EQ2, I have several dark elves and an evil half elf. DIAF high elves! LOL :)

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 9:34AM Dblade said

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I think it's a slow news day if you have to bring that out again.

On topic, pro-elf usually in japanese anime only. Kind of telling that the GA people replaced the western cliche elf with the western cliche space marine.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 10:34AM Birk said

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@Dblade

Haha, I wouldn't call a breakfast topic on elves "news". Maybe a slow opinion day?

Give the guy a break, it's hard to roll out of bed and think about an inspiring topic *every* day!

-Birk
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 9:39AM arathil said

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"eliminated on site" - which site? Construction sites? I doubt too many elves hang out there.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 9:41AM Icemasta said

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As was mentioned several times, it really depends on how they are pictured.

The general elven stereotypes are: Xenophobic, superiority complex, as agile as a monkey and they are "perfect".

I think the two points people are bothered with is Xenophobic and perfect. Then again, it's hard to just hate on that in MMOs. An elven race with those 4 criteria can be fine if there is a race development.

In WC3/WoW lore, the NElves were a bunch of hippies with an ancient past, doom came knocking at their door and after much turmoil because of their xenophobic nature, they set it aside and allied with the human and orcs.

The blood elves were a xenophobic, "superior" race that considered themselves to be perfect, yet when everything came crashing down, that's when you saw the true blood elves. Desperate people that could almost be qualified of depression. Moping around, hoping for mana to sprout out of nowhere. The most desperate one turn evil or try to seek it by any means everywhere they can. The ones that do manage to keep their sanity still struggle with their mana need, and they pretty much live in the past.

Those are good elven races because they have a past. Now take Lord of the rings, I don't like that elven race. They're an ancient race that was pretty much there at the creation of the planet, they sailed to Middle-earth with their immortality and what not, then decided to seclude themselves until they experienced war and decided to create an alliance with man and dwarves (before the war of the ring, there is a huge back story between man, elves and dwarves) . It still doesn't change the fact that they didn't share any of their knowledge, and they are still pricks to everyone else, even though they spent fucking thousands of years with other races.

That's the kind of elves I hate.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 9:42AM Dayron said

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only like the LOTR elves.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 9:50AM Laren said

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Pro elf, but getting tired of them. I like the concept, but wish someone would create another 'good' fantasy race so we'd have some variety. Fantasy races can be defined by more then height and colour and ears.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 10:02AM Yukon Sam said

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An advanced, artistic culture that has learned how to live in harmony with its environment? What's not to love?

Though I confess, my favorite elves are Wendy Pini's elves, who are decidedly and delightfully uncivilized.

As with any culture, the traits attributed to the culture are less important than the quirks that make individuals unique.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 10:03AM CCon99 said

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For me it depends on how the elves were done. I like wild elves, like Wood Elves that are more barbaric then emo. I normally don't like the High Elf types.

But no matter what I'll always pretty much be anti furry characters, just because they're all like ewwww.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 10:10AM Valdamar said

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I don't really a have pro-elf or anti-elf bias - they're just another available race to me. I have played at least one elf in most MMOs that have had them as a playable option - sometimes they've even been my main character (EverQuests 1 & 2) - but on the whole I much prefer playing less "delicate" races (e.g. dwarves, orcs, ogres, trolls, barbarians, etc.) and have played them far more often than elves.

Also with friends like mine, and some of the communities I've been part of, I'd rather endure the shorty/beardy insults from playing a dwarf, or even the ugly/stupid/smelly insults from playing an orc/ogre/troll, than the hippy/effeminate/poncy insults from playing an elf - the latter makes it quite hard to seem worthy of leading a group/raid - sure, you can be boring a play a human, but they're usually as common/popular as elves so you don't really stand out as memorable in a crowd - just another conformist.

It sounds odd, but in both EverQuests my words/advice just seemed to carry more weight in PuGs when I was playing a Barbarian (Warrior), Dwarf (Rogue) or Ogre (Shadowknight) than when I was playing some kind of Elf (Druid & Necro), or Gnome (Magician) for that matter - admittedly people tended to look to melee classes more for leadership than casters in PuGs (I assume because melees are usually at the front of parties so it makes sense they lead the way) so maybe that skewed my perception.

Your race choice, like your character's gender, can definitely impact on how people treat you - often the race choice of your main making the big impact - even when I switched mains to Wood Elf Druid in EQ1, most of my online/guild friends said they still thought of me as my original Barbarian Warrior main that they had first known me as - and when I switched again (for raiding) to a Dwarf Rogue they felt that suited my personality better, maybe because I was back to playing a melee class again, but maybe also because in lore a gruff/grim dwarf is closer to a barbarian than en effete elf - and I did tend to bark orders and accept no indiscipline when leading raids :p

Personally I prefer elves to be somewhat wild/savage and chaotic than the rather aloof and perfect immortal elves that Tolkien portrayed. There's nothing quite so stereotypical as an elf race in decline, but retaining their perfect dignity and aloofness from other races - it's boring, unambitious and has been done to death in films/novels/games.

These days I'd rather have a touch of originality to my elves. WoW's night elves were a nice twist on the elves we were used to by being bigger than humans and a bit more savage/primitive-looking - with WoW's high elves being a little more traditional (and dull) until the bulk of them were given the blood elf twist. RuneQuest Glorantha's elves are actually humanoid plants which may not seem a drastic twist now (Guild Wars 2 seems to be doing something similar with the Sylvari) but it was back in the 1980s before elves became as mainstream as they are now.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 10:33AM ScottishViking said

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I kinda like the elves from The Witcher. Refugees and terrorists and bandits!

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 10:57AM Rozanna said

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I really love elves and always choose them for my character in games if they are available. High elves are my favourites, but I love all kinds. I love their wisdom, long life, the lore and even the pointy ears.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 11:42AM Trololol said

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I HATE Elves! Especially those %$@ bloodelves, something about them makes me wanna slap them in their ''pretty'' little faces. They are so un-Horde. Same with the Elves from WAR... its just wrong! (dont start with the WAR lore plz, I know )

Aaahh, I just had to let it out :P

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 11:43AM Irem said

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Very much pro-elf--when they're done well. They're very easy to do badly.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 11:51AM Greyhame said

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I'm not pro or anti elf. It really depends, as others have stated, on how they are handled. Blood and Night Elves in Warcraft I find interesting. Elves in Lord of the Rings I also like. Elves in Warhammer don't interest me overly much at all. I like the Dragon Age take on Elves in that it's different from the norm, but other than that there's not much to it.

The only race I consistently like through pretty much every fantasy setting they are in is Dwarves. Others really depend on how they are handled.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 11:56AM JanChel said

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Yes.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 12:28PM SpittleGauze said

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No elves! Once you go gnome, you'll never go home!

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 12:37PM eLdritchZ said

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Death to Elves! those damn fairies...

The only halfway acceptable Elves are The White Lions of Chrace and the Retribution of Scyrah... but that's because they're not those arrogant, tree huggin dress wearer types... and we don' take too kindly to those kinds 'round 'ere!

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 1:45PM shipwreck said

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The only MMO I've been heavily invested in here of late is LotRO and Middle-earth without elves is no Middle-earth at all!

That said, I do get tired of seeing Elvish Hunters everyone. Didn't care for elves in WoW either.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2010 1:56PM cray said

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I don't like the idea of stereotyping Elves, so I try not to have opinion one way or another. It truly depends on the context they are in. I don't care for WoW Elves as I don't see anything unique about them. I like how they are in LOTR, although they are rather stereotypical, they still find a way to appeal to me personally.

I'm looking forward to Sylvari, which is supposed to be GW2 version of Elves/druids.

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