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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 5:53AM Decanus said

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Sweet wonder if we can get some of that urak-hai armor for our hobbits

Posted: Nov 19th 2010 9:04AM gildhur said

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You can already get that in Fil-gashan in Moria. ;-)
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 6:10AM Ardwulf said

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And here I was, all ready to gloat over how I scooped Massively on the news... but your piece is actually much better than mine.

Posted: Nov 19th 2010 6:01AM DiscoJer said

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This is a serious failure on Turbine's part.

2 years between expansions? And not even full expansions, miniature ones.

It was like a year and a half between the launch of the game and Moria, which was a huge expansion. In between there were 3 new regions to the game added, and one more shortly afterwards

After that, it's like development just ground to a halt. A year later we got Mirkwood, which wasn't exactly big (they had to add the skirmish system to even call it a mini expansion). Then another year later, we got 1 region, Enedwaith,

And now a year into the future, we'll get Isengard. And a couple of other regions. Which I guess is an improvement over Mirkwood, but still probably 1/3 of Moria.

Do they really think people are happy sitting at the level cap for a couple years?

Here we come to Mordor in 2035.

Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:20AM Drannos said

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Why would you hold Turbine, or LotRO, to a higher standard than, say, WoW?

Warcraft has been around for a sight longer than most other games, and they are just now only releasing their third actual expansion. Granted, Mirkwood, and MAYBE Isengard could be considered mini-expansions, but Turbine has been releasing free content expansions along the way.

I'll agree that the pace has slowed down, but also remember that a lot of what was released in the first year was probably already well into development when the game was launched (possibly even parts of Moria as well), whereas now it's all new content. And they had to do a lot of work for that pesky F2P thing...
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:52AM hami83 said

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*yawn*
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:37AM (Unverified) said

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Well, one problem Turbine has is, when they reach Mordor, it's game over.

Nothing more to tell after that.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:36AM Budukahn said

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The point though, is that they "haven't" been releasing content. Since Mirkwood there was a grand total of one book quest updated to the game, and that mostly involved running around the old world. It was the only thing in a year that was new to the game.

Lets also consider that Mirkwood itself was by many accounts a pretty poor expansion. A single raid, a handful of regular dungeons and one zone weren't nearly enough made up for by the under-utilized skirmish system. This wouldn't of-course be a problem if Mirkwood wasn't a mandatory purchase for lotro players (Mandatory, because you can't very well not buy expansions that increase the level gap and move the endgame).

My worry is that "mini-expansion" is rapidly coming to mean $5 less on the box for three quarters less of the game. Their are few folks well enough off to whom value for money holds no interest, and Mirkwood certainly wasn't value for money. I hope Isenguard is better.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 9:06AM gildhur said

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There have been two Books added to the game since Mirkwood. Book 1 in March '10. Book 2 in September '10 (there was a little thing called a full F2P redesign of the entire game in between there if you've forgotten). Book 3 is also scheduled to come out next Spring. I would expect a Summer update as well.

Moria was two zones: Eregion, Moria. Yes, Moria was hugely massively gigantic, but it's still just one zone. Isengard is said to be three zones now: Dunland, Gap, Isen. Maybe not larger in sheer mass, but more zones. And definitely larger than Mirkwood, which was only one zone.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 9:09AM ScottishViking said

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Massively community, engage whining engines! Seriously, why would you expect an equal amount of attention to the game between now and immediately post-release? LOTRO's no spring chicken. And yet they've seen their userbase increase, and are continuing to release quality content. Your complaint seems to be that they're not gearing towards hardcore or endgamers. Yet the F2P community seems ecstatic about the updates. And why wouldn't they be? The casual playing community is also really happy. And you won't be at the level cap for "a couple of years." Besides when the cap was 50, when has this been the case? The game is old, but not that old. You're being histrionic.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:20AM (Unverified) said

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They're taking the Hobbits to Isengard!

Posted: Nov 19th 2010 6:56PM mko said

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One does not simply walk into Isengard.. or something like that.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:21AM (Unverified) said

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I get the feeling the from now on expac for LOTRO are going to be smaller with zones coming more often then in the past simply because this will allow Turbine to charge F2P for each new zone that comes out. so while RoI will have "only" 3 zones they may have like 6 others in waiting so they can cash in on the F2P cash.

Posted: Nov 19th 2010 10:33AM Birk said

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If the zones are big and well designed...well shoot yeah I'll pay the 4 or 5 dollars for it.

At my own pace. Because I move through content quite slowly...its nice to buy an area and be able to meander through and enjoy it for a month or two before having to buy another one.

Beats 15 bucks a month for the casual player. For the hardcore fellows out there...just subscribe as you usually would :)

-Birk
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:16AM hami83 said

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I hope we see lots of ents! And not the scary ones that want you kill you like in the old forest ones!

Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:31AM Ocho said

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All I have to say is "Damn you, Massively!" I have a busy weekend planned and you go ahead and throw all kinds of good stuff about LotRO and GW... now every spare moment I have this weekend will be going into these games...

It is great to be an MMO player, isn't it? Always new, always changing...

Posted: Nov 19th 2010 9:13AM ScottishViking said

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Open-world PvP in LOTRO = YES

Posted: Nov 19th 2010 10:14AM Stormwaltz said

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So long as you have to opt into it.

If I enjoyed PvP, I'd be playing Darkfall or EVE, not LotRO.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 10:42AM Birk said

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The nature of PVMP means that it'll be in some sort of confined area of Isengard. There has to be boundaries for the Creeps (naturally, to stop them from venturing out into the shire ;) ).

It'll probably be some cordoned off section under the tower, or perhaps on the outskirts of the wood.

I'm sure they wouldn't put any quests or other PVE things in there...it would be pretty contradictory to LOTRO's method - and I'm not certain they're willing to make that sweeping a change given their recent success with the current model.

-Birk
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 10:44AM ScottishViking said

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Your opinion is like many people's who play LOTRO. I'm sure it will be a heavily qualified "open" -- probably within a restricted zone.
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