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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:54PM clockwork305 said

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Definitely looking forward to this.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 1:16PM Bartlebe said

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This will end in one of two ways:

It will be a great media moment for Darkfall, luring in new players and new ideas.

OR

It will be a giant disaster as Jef gets ganked, griefed and 3-shot into oblivion in the Mahirim starting zones while realizing that he has months and months of hard grinding ahead of him before he is viable.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 1:46PM Stuxatte said

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I'm thinking the latter.

I got two days into the free trial before giving up.

It wasn't just because of the newbie ganking, although that was part of it.

It was because after two days I'd come to realize that Darkfall is a MMOPS... Massively Multiplayer Online Prison Simulator... and all the distasteful things that entails.

I guess I can see how that might appeal to some people. And, I'll say that the game runs well, looks decent and has some interesting mechanics.

Myself, I prefer PvP with some sporting chance.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 1:31PM (Unverified) said

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Eh.. My experience in the Mahirim starting area was killing mobs while another mahirim would stand next to me auto-looting my mobs...

Potentially great game but tends to attract the crappiest people

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:12PM (Unverified) said

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I agree with Bart. Hoping for the former :) though lots of players have been experimenting with pvp using characters less than 6 weeks old (and finding success!), A big part of the grind is knowledge and wealth, which might not come to those that are crotchety. We'll see!

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 1:44PM Stormwaltz said

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"We will be watching your career with great interest."

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:04PM DrewIW said

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Second game in a row where people voted for a furry avatar.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:17PM VioletArrows said

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*flat* Oh noes.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 5:28PM Monkey D Luffy said

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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:16PM (Unverified) said

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Sweet! Will keep my eyes open for this coverage, as i'm patching Darkfall right now :D

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:30PM JoeH42 said

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"...and Dwarves were, well, dwarfed by the votes for the so-called evil races of Agon."

I think people like the more unique races to begin with. I mean, a dwarf is largely a dwarf, an elf is and elf with very very few exceptions (only one that comes to mind is in the Terry Pratchett novel "Lords and Ladies" where he portrays them as being really nasty people who just wear rags and garbage because they've got Glamour and know that people will think they look good anyways.)

But I think in general, "evil" characters/races are more interesting than "good" ones. There seems to be a fairly limited number of motivations to be good while there's a wide variety of reasons to be evil. Even an evil character who wants to destroy the world can have dozens of different reasons for it. The Vogons in Hitchhiker's Guide are just doing it as a construction job (at least that's the original story). Killface from Frisky Dingo has a variety of reasons including Viagra ("You just want your _____ to be a little play thing that will pop up for you whenever you want!!"). Some villians just want to watch the world burn....
Of course, this is why more intresting heroes tend to have doubts and conflicting desires or even goals. You also get some great anti-heroes, of which my favorite is Riddick.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 8:50PM eLdritchZ said

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i gotta disagree here... from a roleplaying perspective i find good aligned characters A LOT harder to play than neutral or evil ones... because when you are evil, the easiest solution for every quest/job/problem is just: go in, kill everyone, loot them, defile the corpses, yay evil karma/faith/exp/whatever, hooray!

When you are good, you can't just kill the innocent farmers who "found" your master's sword that you have been sent out for... so you have to ransom for it, do more quests be diplomatic or whatever...

being good (especially lawful good) is REALLY hard and super interesting imho...

then again, noone RPs in MMOs anyway.... so yay for werewolves, orcs and dark elves i guess -.-
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 3:41PM JoeH42 said

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@eldritch

Oh I'd agree that it can be a refreshing change to play any character at the extreme end of either spectrum. Although generally I don't think it's hard to play a good character, you just go in and kill everyone who is evil. It only gets complicated when someone is doing bad things but isn't an evil person and doesn't deserve to die. The easiest characters to play are the more pragmatic ones that just do what is most efficient. In the example you gave the pragmatic character just says "Look farmer, here's more gold than you'd make in a month, take it and give me the sword or I'll just take the sword from you. You got 5 seconds to make up your mind."

But, that's neither here nor there. My point was that I find evil characters more interesting. Not harder to play, just more interesting. It also seems like a lot of writers (whether writing books, games, or movies) spend a lot more time on an evil character's backstory. For example, how much do we really hear about Frodo's background, and what could you really say about it? On the other hand the ring itself has a nice background and Sauron's is even better, and more complex. What could we say about Luke Skywalker? On the flipside we have a whole (crappy) trilogy about how Anakin became Darth Vader.
So, my point is, evil characters seem more interesting and it seems like people put more effort into their evil characters in a story.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:32PM extispex said

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Can you even play this race still? When I tried Darkfall about 2 months ago, this and another race were completely broken. There were no creatures around to kill for the quests. I asked the help channels about it and people said that it had been broken for some time. All the respawns had in two areas had been basically shut off by some update. It was pretty unpleasant experience for a gamer just getting in.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 3:20PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, they've fixed those spawn issues finally. :)

I think that Mahirims are a good choice. For the _most_ part, Mahirims and Orks don't kill their own as much as the other races.

It's going to be interesting to watch this progress. I do think that starting with NEW is a great idea, and will put you with like-minded people who are also struggling to learn the game while being ganked :P
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 4:22PM Ragemore said

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I started the trial over the weekend and rolled up a Dwarf. I noticed I was also told to join NEW. Is this a multi faction clan, or is there one for each side?

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 6:44PM End Dream said

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multi-faction
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 6:51PM (Unverified) said

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Welcome to GrindFall :P

Im looking forward how many griefer / noob ganker squads are going to welcome you.

Btw are you really going to play only about 9h? O.o At least afk swimming or macroing?

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 6:59PM Jef Reahard said

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Naw, I'll be playing pretty much every day for at least a couple of hours over the next six weeks, more on my days off. Those listed times are when I know I'll be playing this particular week, if anyone wanted to group or whatever.

I played for about an hour just now for example.

Otherwise, it's whenever I get time to play at random times throughout the day.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 7:36PM xBludx said

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I have an Ork, but I've played a lot in wolflands. Just look out for Bloodbolt. He is a much despised noob ganker never to be trusted. If you have a guild tag, on be careful at the bank in wolflands.

Otherwise, I found the community there pretty cool and helpful on the whole. The number of idiots tends to rise on weekends at at peak hours of course, but they are still a small (albeit vocal on Race Alliance chat) minority.

On the whole, I found people willing to group up and cooperative. Just send them a tell to let them know your intent and see how they respond - if they do. Most people do.

I understand a lot of people had a harsh experience and judged the whole community based on it. They may have sent a rage-tell and not got a positive response. I found that communicating with the people around you is a great way to have better experience in Darkfall, especially before you get into a clan.




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