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Posted: Nov 16th 2010 8:08PM JohnD212 said

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Interesting considering I just got hit with a $16 monthly fee from Square. If they don't credit it I will cancel my membership and remove this sorry excuse of a game.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 9:30AM (Unverified) said

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Heh, reminds me of Funcom and the AoC launch with the charging of the card even after the subscription was cancelled.

And FFXIV's box sales must have hit rock bottom for them to be so desperate as to do this for the second month running. They are most likely of the opinion that a majority will not sub after the free month runs out and the box sales are too low to have them leave and never come back. Probably better to entice the current players with promises of a better experience down the line and hope that they sub when the free period does run out than to end the free period and have them never show up again.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2010 8:11PM (Unverified) said

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While I feel this game may be beyond saving for anyone other than the FF fan base, It's nice to see SE finally admitting they screwed up big time by not listening to their beta testers. Now lets see if they can actually fix the game.

Posted: Nov 16th 2010 8:27PM Irem said

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In the one recent interview I've seen with them, the most they said was that they regrettably weren't able to implement the feedback they got from the beta testing in time for release, because there were "too many bugs." When asked if more time would have helped, they shrugged it off by saying that if they'd had more time, there probably would have just been more bugs to fix (read: ho hum, of course we chose to release it in this condition, it was all according to plan except for a few minor details that were entirely out of our control~). Basically the entire piece amounted to, "Well, we did the absolute BEST we could and we're SORRY if you don't like it."
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Posted: Nov 16th 2010 9:04PM Monkey D Luffy said

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Final Fantasy fans are the main people that don't like this game.
If anyone really likes this game then there is something wrong with them mentally.


SE should have just remade Final Fantasy XI or made a Final Fantasy WoW clone (Or just listened to the fans like a real game company).
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Posted: Nov 16th 2010 10:00PM Addfwyn said

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@Joker I really like the game, just because someone's tastes differ from yours, doesn't exactly mean they have a mental disorder. That's a bit of an extreme leap

There's some convenience issues they could clean up interface wise to make me happy, but the core game is one of the best MMOs (for me, obviously not for you) I've played in a while. Also, it's amazingly gorgeous, which for an MMO world matters a lot to me.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:09AM Monkey D Luffy said

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@Dymphna.

Did you know most mentally ill people don't know they are mentally ill?

You gotta know there's something wrong with you if you are spending time playing FFXIV over spending that time on ANYTHING else.


You disgust me.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:20AM Mr Angry said

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Bravo Joker, best post I have read at Massively this year :)
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 3:40AM Addfwyn said

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@Joker

Wow, I'm sorry, but speaking of issues. If somebody liking a game that you happen to not like bothers you that much, you seriously need to consider getting some help. I don't say that to be mean, I mean it legitimately sounds like something you should be concerned with. If you already are, I'm sorry about that and I hope it goes well for you.

Some people are going to like games you don't, and you're going to not like games other people like. Even sometimes a game that is really popular, you may not like. It doesn't mean you are mentally ill if your opinion differs, just that you have different tastes. Differing opinions is not a sign of mental illness.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 10:53AM Solp said

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The joker got you all.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2010 8:15PM Nenene said

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It's like ordering a deluxe hamburger with a pale ale and getting two dry, ancient buns with a shrivelled piece of lettuce in the middle and a Miller Lite, and then when you complain to the manager, getting the offer of another horrible 'burger' for free instead of a refund. Who wants seconds of that?

Posted: Nov 16th 2010 8:15PM Nenene said

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It's like ordering a deluxe hamburger with a pale ale and getting two dry, ancient buns with a shrivelled piece of lettuce in the middle and a Miller Lite, and then when you complain to the manager, getting the offer of another horrible 'burger' for free instead of a refund. Who wants seconds of that?

Posted: Nov 16th 2010 8:15PM Sunlover said

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So, looks like SE knows that if they lose their early adopters, their subscription based plans are over. As I said before, this is a smart move, but will do little if the game doesn't meet expectations. They have a pretty big uphill battle to fight when it comes to getting the game to a place that their fans think it should be. Add to that the impending Cataclysm, along with some great big name MMO's releasing soon, and I just can't see this game ever meeting SE's financial expectations, let alone their customers' for what should have been an amazing FF online experience. At least, not without permanently extending this free to play period, as in, just making it F2P.

Whatever happens, it should be interesting to watch. I just hope SE gets their whole business together soon, as pretty much everything they've been doing recently is seriously lacking. Looks like they better think about releasing Kingdom Hearts 3 or remaking FF VII soon. As much as I know people would love to see those games, one can only hope they don't drop the ball as badly with those two potential releases, or things could really get worse for SE.

Posted: Nov 16th 2010 8:19PM Irem said

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It sounds like they're just betting on box sales to keep afloat, and will keep extending the free period until they have a big chunk of content ready to release. While the game is free to play, they can at least hold the interest of people waiting to see where things go (in addition to those who are legitimately enjoying it), but if they started charging a fee I'm willing to bet they'd lose a lot of those "wait it out" subscriptions fairly quickly.

Posted: Nov 16th 2010 8:39PM (Unverified) said

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I love any and all talk of subscriptions and stock numbers tanking. They have this coming, ignored testers, ignored fanbase, and have been making worse quality of games the last couple years. I'm waiting for the news articles about CEOs and key staffers getting the boot. Don't buy this game, the quality is insulting to any gamer. I know some of you die hard folks are old FF lovers, and looked forward to this game. The past doesn't justify this piece of massed produce trash. Warn friends, boycott this crap.

And when Cata comes out Dec 7, it will be the death blow. Counting the days.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 1:58AM Dranaerys said

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Amen to that. they pushed the game way too early out of the gate before Cata to lure as many saps into buying it becasue SE knew they had a massive stinker on their hands, but in 2 weeks? Forget box sales alone, people will be leaving their servers in droves.

Its generally not nice, savoring the Schadenfreude of watching a trainwreck happen, but in this case, SE deserves every bit they get.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 3:44AM Ephe said

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While I do agree somewhat, I must say that this game is fantastic.

There's still no end in sight after 2 months of hardcore playing @_@

I have been spiritually reborn as a hard-working individual since everything takes so long to achieve. It requires an extraordinary amount of patience and determination. As a result I've gotten used to harsh work environments where praise and reward is minimal. Thank you FFXIV for making me a better and stronger human being.
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Posted: Nov 23rd 2010 9:21AM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) While I understand the thrill of succeeding at difficult games (I used to play Ninja Gaiden Black mission modes, obsessively completing each one on master ninja.... got stuck on the second to last tier though) I hardly consider perservearing through a game that makes me wish I were sticking bamboo shoots under my fingernails a triumph.

Difficult games are great, so long as they are balanced well and that they play smoothly. Due to the overwhelming amout of bugs that plague FFXIV, the players end up fighting the game more often than the enemies. This is unacceptable. It is fine if the content is challenging. Bring it on. It is not fine if the gratest challenge you face is choosing whether or not it is worth logging in.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2010 8:51PM Exz1stence said

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Ya not too shocked to see this. It's been a pretty horrible ride so far. I keep telling myself I will give it till January. Thanks SE for making that decision a little less difficult.

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