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Posted: Oct 21st 2010 12:32PM (Unverified) said

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what's a godmodder?

First guess: Italian grandmother. (lol)

Second guess: someone that rp's a god come to azeroth?

Posted: Oct 21st 2010 12:50PM Irem said

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It's someone who doesn't play fair, to the extent that they override other people's characters. Imagine two kids playing pretend and one of them makes his fingers into a gun and says, "Bang! I shot you, now you're dead." A godmoder does that in RP, and expects other people to play along with them.

Sometimes it's more subtle, like claiming to be related to a famous NPC or to have been the specific person who took down, say, the Lich King. Anything that takes control of another person's character without their permission, or gives a character an unrealistic amount of influence over the game world without having worked it out with the other players in advance, is godmodding.

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Posted: Oct 21st 2010 12:45PM Irem said

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"I'm not openly mean in most situations, but I tend to avoid certain kinds of people. You know the types: godmodders, selfish jerks, and people with only the thinnest grasp of the English language. Most of my friends kind of tolerate these people, but I am pretty adamant when it comes to keeping them out of my RP."

I might be reading this incorrectly, but I'm really not seeing where this makes you a tool. Cliques get kind of a bad rap in RP circles, but in my experience, if said clique isn't a bunch of actively malicious gossiping jerks, they're usually a group of people for whom RP stops being fun when they have to spend the better part of two hours listening to Lonewolf Darkblood explain his tragic past and why he never trusts anyone--despite the fact that he'll divulge everything about himself to anyone who will listen--only to have him beg for dungeon runs immediately afterward. There's excluding people to be a snob, and there's excluding people because you want to have fun and not worry about babysitting someone who has no personal boundaries or interest in playing along with everyone else. I used to run an RP guild, and man, the pressure to be simultaneously all-inclusive and picky was ridiculous. Everyone seems to think that RP groups -should- be picky about the people they play with, in order to provide quality RP...but actually excluding anyone too often leads to being treated as though you just coldly turned the new kid away from your favorite lunch table for wearing the wrong sneakers.

Actually, the first Geek Social Fallacy covers that: http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html

There's something to be said for giving everyone a chance, and I think staying civil regardless is a sign of excellent character, but roleplaying in a group with an ongoing storyline is a trickier beast than just meeting people out on the street, and I have seen groups like that wrecked, or more commonly, made miserable for a space of time, because nobody wanted to be the bad guy and say, "Sorry, I don't think you're a good fit for us." After a while of "giving everyone the benefit of the doubt," I've come to recognize red flags that mean a disaster waiting to happen.

"You'd be surprised how many 'exclusive' cliques you can penetrate if you are bold."

But this bears repeating. I can't count the number of times I've seen drama start because one or two people think Group A is actively excluding them (and complain publicly about it), when Group A is actually full of shy but friendly people who are just not inclined by nature to run around pulling in other people who are also too shy to make the first move. RPers are often like spiders; they're more scared of you than you are of them.

Posted: Oct 21st 2010 12:53PM Tom in VA said

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I really do wish MMOs offered some sort of optional, highly detailed, in-game Q&A or survey, allowing players to describe their playing style and general approach to gaming and grouping and then match them to a guild/player database in order to find the clique (guild) that might be the best fit for that player. I guess it would function sort of like a "dating service". ;)

The survey should cover all sorts of things, such as the hours you play, the things in game you like best, attitude toward approach to RP, PvP, etc., etc.

I keep waiting for an MMO that does a really good job of helping like-minded players find one another. It hasn't happened yet.

You'd think, for games based around bringing people together, that mechanisms like this would be a priority, but it doesn't seem to be.

Posted: Oct 21st 2010 1:42PM chrswyatt said

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I've actually starting thinking about RP'ing my character in FFXIV. It's rare that people talk aloud in public on my server (save for the occasional shouting) and I find it a bit dull while I go from location to location. So I am trying to nail down the specific "kind" of back story I want to establish for myself.

Anyways, I'm on Asiel Oren on the Palamecia server if anyone is curious. Thanks!

Posted: Oct 21st 2010 6:35PM gandales said

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RPing is hard, I can't get the courage to do it smoothly. Maybe, it is because English is not my first language. It might be my traumatic experience in wow where RPing is basically done in old English.

While some games gives more tools for RPers still is a matter of the community.

Posted: Oct 21st 2010 8:18PM Ekphrasis said

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"This doesn't mean she can't express negative character traits (flaws are always good), but you're best bet is to portray her in a way that makes people want to be involved with her."

'you're' should be 'your' ?
(Respectfully, if you take a stab at anyone else for their grammar / spelling, perhaps you should ensure that your own is spot on first.)

RP can be serious business - the attitudes of RP'ers frequently do little to encourage those interested in becoming involved. In City of Heroes some of my SG team members were avid RP'ers but were always friendly and inclusive and more than tolerant of those who did not particularly want to RP. No one saw it as an obstacle to enjoying the game - merely different styles of play coming together.

Although it isn't for me, I can see the enjoyment in RP. What I don't understand is how it can be 'fun' when you're being a jerk to other players. Personally, poor spelling/grammar irritates me somewhat - but - I'm far more interested in interacting with people who have a good attitude regardless of their proficiency with the English language. Why would I want to penalise someone or make them feel inadequate because they didn't have a great education or they're an international player where English is their second language?

I'm sure there are some shy and misunderstood groups out there full of great people but RP'ers, in general, have earned their reputation for being rude, haughty twats.

That said, I genuinely hope Patrick's article does help to encourage those who are interested but hesitant about adopting RP as their play style because there are also some fantastic RP'ers out there.

Posted: Oct 22nd 2010 5:08AM Patrick Mackey said

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Argh! Little mistakes sometimes slip through. I'm wondering what happened since normally Bree catches EVERY little error I make.

Anyway, this column is more about integrating yourself into cliques, and regardless of what I think, bad grammar makes you sound stupid even if you're an intelligent person. Honestly most people will just kind of roll with it, but they're unlikely to send you a friend invite or want to roleplay with you more if your grammar sucks. That's just the way it is.

Most people aren't actually rude to your face about things they don't like, but they'll just avoid you and sigh internally when you try to roleplay with them (possibly release the PMs to other people about how annoying you are, etc.) I've found that most (yes, most!) players are surprisingly tolerant of stupidity in their RP, even if they're not having fun.
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Posted: Oct 23rd 2010 1:10PM Arcadian said

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Must be difficult to find anyone to RP with given the lack of playerbase, too.

Recycled Bloodmoon and Clarence over the next two months pretty much seals it.

F2P January 1.

Posted: Oct 23rd 2010 1:39PM (Unverified) said

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That game don't have enough content to go F2p
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Posted: Oct 25th 2010 8:05AM Arcadian said

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The lifers will still get their 13-plus months' worth. But you're right, Even when Steam had this for $6 and a free month, people stopped playing. Lifer friend tells me that even on the weekends now there's nobody on except for Demonflame runs, and after people lose interest in that and recycled Bloodmoon next week, the countdown to F2P begins.

Demonflame is the last new content you'll see, folks. Count on it.
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