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Posted: Oct 12th 2010 4:22PM Arkanaloth said

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Glint's challenge can be pretty tough to HH, even with a discordway team. It certainly takes some getting used to. I may give it another try with a friend and double-discord it, he takes one side and I'll take the other.

Posted: Oct 12th 2010 4:34PM (Unverified) said

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The Imperial Phoenix at the end of Factions does not start out at Level 20. It is a Level 5 pet unfortunately.

Posted: Oct 12th 2010 4:43PM Arkanaloth said

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true.. the phoenix does start at level five, but it can be power-grinded to 20 pretty fast as long as you meet a few conditions.

the best place to power-grind XP are the worms outside of boreal station, they have no ranged attack. In hardmode they are worth about 350+xp if you can solo them, 500+ with a cheap XP scroll and as much as 700 or so with the more expensive XP scrolls.

that area is where most people grind for legendary survivor since it's a pretty safe place to get XP. Grind the 10 worms in the area, map back to the station, go out again. It's also a great place to power-grind the phoenix! I took mine from 5 to 14 in one night. Now that my phoenix is high enough level I take it out on my Mt. Quinkai luxon rep farming runs (hardmode), but I could just as easily continue to power-grind the worms til he's 20.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2010 4:47PM Faction 3 said

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Rubi, marry meh!!

But seriously, this GW Hall has brought me back so quick, that I even found myself exploring new Classes that never interested me before (Dervish...) just to experience more GW.

Posted: Oct 12th 2010 5:42PM (Unverified) said

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Actually, there's a bit of a snag with your pet-guide... The menagerie pets never turn aggressive, even after being attacked. You can however deathlevel through a method of saccing until your DP brings your health down to 1, and have a hero ressurect you with less than 50% health, and thus just slump back down. Each will count as a separate death (my necro has over 30 000 deaths from this :D ) and give exp to the pet. Details are described on the wiki ;)

Posted: Oct 12th 2010 6:17PM Rubi said

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Thank you so much for the clarification -- my face is red!

I've only ever leveled my pets the "normal" way, so to speak, so this is one I had to ask around about. The information is fixed, and stuff like this is why I love our readers -- thank you again!
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Posted: Oct 12th 2010 6:04PM Metalheart said

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I just tried to death-level my bear and it wasnt agro in Menagerie grounds

Posted: Oct 12th 2010 8:23PM Jesspiper said

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These articles really help a lazy ass like me who only has 4/50. Keep 'em coming.

Posted: Oct 12th 2010 8:49PM Grok said

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Hey Rubi, really enjoying this series so far, there's some great info here.

One thing is nagging me though. As someone who has only played GW on a very, very casual basis, is it realistic for someone who is basically starting from scratch to expect to get to 30 points before the game comes out? What kind of time commitment are we looking at here?

Looking forward to reading the rest of the series! Thanks!

Posted: Oct 12th 2010 9:27PM Jesspiper said

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I'm in the same boat. I've been playing since the game was released, but always as a side game to my main MMO. That being said since there is really nothing to play Guild Wars is my main game currently, but I have a lot of grinding/work to do. I imagine being part of an active guild will make a huge difference ( any recruiters out there??? D/Mo looking for work!!).

I'd like to know (aside from title grinding) how much of the content needed to fill the HoM is soloable?
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Posted: Oct 12th 2010 10:01PM Gemi said

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Getting to 30 will be quite tough if you are starting from scratch. Getting heroes, pets and minipets to full is quite easy, but the going gets rough when we come to the titles and the equipment.

Maxing out the armor and items is an easy task as crafting or buying them is fast, BUT it requires quite a huge amount of gold and/or materials to do, so if you don't have a lot of money stacked away you'll have to spend huge amounts of time gathering materials and/or gold to craft or purchase the items.

In addition to that you'll also have to gather quite a lot of titles, and those really do take time and effort to get. Luckily if you concentrate on the titles that don't cost you money you will actually gather quite a lot during playing so that you can simultaneously advance your item and armor collections while getting the titles. Therefor I'd suggest not getting the otherwise easy sweet tooth or party animal titles for example as those cost a lot of money that you'd better spend towards the armor and weapons, and instead concentrate on things like vanquishing, exploring and elite skill hunting. There are good guides available for may of the titles, but be prepared to spend time doing them. Many of them are however really fun to do, so it's not time spent "grinding" and instead offers lots of variable things to do. Vanquishing and exploring are both easily done together and this lets you travel around all of the world trying out all of the possible areas and enemies, and you can also do the elite skill capturing at the same time when confronting bosses.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2010 10:04PM Gemi said

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Also forgot to comment on the soloing question. Generally I'd say soloing isn't that efficient as you are required to use henchmen in addition to yourself and your heroes, but if you have a friend you'll do great with the two of you and your heroes. I've basically only ever played the game with my girlfriend - even before heroes were released - and we've had it easy doing almost anything in the game by ourselves. Some of the tougher game areas like DoA are places where you'll generally want to have players instead of heroes, but for the purpose of acquiring HoM points you'll be able to get to 30 with one friend and heroes.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2010 11:19PM Jesspiper said

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Very informative Undini. I only know 2 other people irl who play GW2 so the fact that most of the content can be duo'd is great to hear. Currently I'm focusing on finishing the EoTN compaign (currently on Destruction's Depths) and from there it's on to farming Norn rep and Tanned Hide Squares for my first prestige armour.
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Posted: Oct 13th 2010 11:42AM Arkanaloth said

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I must disagree with Undini, not only is soloing efficient, it's EXTREMELY effective and allows you to play the game around your time instead of waiting for other people and hoping they have a good build. Duo's are not bad either but it's been my observation that the more real people you throw into a group the more it becomes a chaotic disorganized mess.

I have soloed *EVERY* storyline progression mission in all 4 games successfully. (quests are different but I've soloed all that I've done of those too) Now let's break this down cause even when you solo in guildwars you're not alone. Typically it's referred to as HH'ing (Hero / Henchmen). To be successful running an HH team you will need *STRONG* hero builds. I would *HIGHLY* recommend DiscordWay, the build was designed for running HH teams to Vanquish hardmode so a DiscordWay team will pretty much stomp normal-mode into the ground. Look it up on www.pvxwiki.com, there they explain the necessary heroes and how to make it work.

The core of the team is what I call the "Discord Team Leader" who calls the targets for the heroes to Discord spam, the team leader would be the character you control. I've successfully made the role of team leader work with every class in the game with the most difficult IMO being Warrior and the absolute easiest being Necromancer.

If you're running DiscordWay, about the only time you will need help on missions in normal mode is on particularly hard ones (Eternal Grove anyone?) or when going for Masters in which case some of them can be tricky. Often on more difficult content I'll bring a friend and his hero team along and we'll run Double DiscordWay. Six Heroes spamming Discord will melt all but the absolutely STRONGEST of enemy teams or bosses... even in hardmode.

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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:54AM Gemi said

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I said soloing isn't "generally" efficient. This doesn't mean that soloing doesn't work. Me and my gf have both soloed quite a bunch of the harder content in the game. However, it's not something that is efficient in some of the things you do in game (like you yourself pointed out, some missions and their bonus objectives might be slightly difficult) and it really does require more knowledge and skill in the game. For more of an average GW player it's a lot more easier and efficient to duo stuff, and if you are basically starting from scratch with the HoM points then you most likely don't have too much experience with every facet of the game.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2010 11:54PM (Unverified) said

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I would like to add that you can also level your pets with Helena in the Menagerie by using Balthazar Faction which can be earned in various types of PvP including the very easy Zaishen Elite, Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry.

Posted: Oct 13th 2010 12:58AM (Unverified) said

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First of all, you can get a level 20 Wolf by creating a PvP character and giving it to the menagerie - that takes care of the 'regular' animal companion. But a rare animal also counts as an animal companion! So you don't even need to do that.

Fellowship really is the easiest/cheapest to fill up (although minipets might be competitive once the prices drop)

Posted: Oct 19th 2010 6:15PM (Unverified) said

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If you have M.O.X., he can go into the Hall straight away; no need to put armor on him.

The quest to get the Black Moa is actually pretty short and easy. Just go talk to a 4 or 5 NPCs in places like Ferndale and Drazach Thicket. I did it in under an hour. The moa continues to spawn after you complete the quest, too, according to the wiki.

And I leveled my Phoenix with Balthazar faction (instead of Zaishen Coins) pretty quickly. You can get loads of it in Jade Quarry with how fast all the mine NPCs are killed. On a good run you can get over 2000 faction. Helps you level your Luxon/Kurzick ranks, too.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:13PM Altruist said

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I know this is a total newb question, but:

how do you tame a pet as a non-ranger? i am a paragon, and i want to put a pet in my hall of monuments, but can't figure out how to get it.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:15PM Rubi said

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Hey there, Alltrueist. That's actually a pretty good question. Simply change your secondary profession to ranger and equip the "Charm Animal" skill. You can then use it to tame your pet.
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