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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 10:40AM Jef Reahard said

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I have to admit to the same "whoa freaking awesome....oh, console-only" reaction that many of you had. I don't have a problem with consoles per se, I just don't see how the social elements of an MMO will work on them.

The little mini-keyboard I bought that plugs into my 360 controller is more of a nightmare to type with than a smartphone, and I'm one of those folks that doesn't really care for voice in MMOs unless it's a raid situation.

Posted: Oct 6th 2010 11:11AM (Unverified) said

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why wouldnt the social elements of an MMO not work on Consoles? i know i aint using a keyboard during a zombie attack or just to tell somebody we need to get water when i could just say on the mic "dude, were leaving the settlment just to get water". im just wondering how much interaction between people theres gonna be and how spread out from people your gonna be. i know i dont want to see hundreds of players outside looking to build a shelter with me.

thats not survival to me. but when its just me and like 10 other dudes trying to take over a walmart from the hordes and then dealing with like a bunch of "super infected" later on. then were getting somewhere. im just scared that this could be another one of those great ideas that just becomes really bad or just doesnt work.

anyways, im glad to see a console mmo. we need more of those, not less. the only thing is i can only see something like this work on PS3. M$ sucks shit through a straw cause of their "gotta pay for EVERYTHING" Live business model. thats probably the biggest hurdle i see.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 3:14PM Dblade said

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The 360's controller ports are USB, Jef. Just plug a usb keyboard in, enjoy.

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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 6:04PM Jef Reahard said

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I've tried that; it's just weird to have a keyboard flopping around in my lap while I'm sitting on the couch.

Not saying it can't work, just that I'd prefer this game on the PC. I'll definitely be playing it though, regardless.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 10:59AM (Unverified) said

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console only??? you fail already.

Posted: Oct 6th 2010 11:14AM Psychotic Storm said

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Well the biggest problem with console only is, unsurprisingly smaller buyers pool.

until Sony and MS decide that they should provide on-line services to the whole world there will be chunks of consumer base that are simply not allowed to play such games.

At least not without lying on were they are located, but that's another story.

Posted: Oct 6th 2010 11:24AM Triskelion said

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Like many people here, color me "interested". I was a hardcore "pc only" gamer since the early 90's. But when I'm spending roughly $2k every 2+ years to upgrade my pc to have the latest and greatest, it gets old. I've owned both a PS3 and XBRICK 360 for years and tbh its just hassle-free gaming.

Posted: Oct 6th 2010 11:48AM Pan1 said

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Dude, don't paint the wrong picture.

PC gaming is as expensive as the inner geek wants it to be.
Console gaming is not cheaper then PC gaming. They can both be as expensive as you want.

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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 12:02PM Triskelion said

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Well, yes and no. Sure I can go out and buy a top of the line 85", 3D HDTV, but most people already own an HDTV. When I look back over the years I have spent an s-load of money on pc gaming and pc peripherals. Outside of the cost for the console and a decent HDTV, which I already owned, what other costs are involved?

Again, I was a hardcore pc gamer, almost to the point of getting a "PC GAMER FOR LIFE" tattoo, lol, well almost. But I cannot discount console gaming as a cheaper, albeit less cerebral experience, then pc gaming in this economy. And lets not forget the convenience of taking the DVD out and just being able to play?!?!?!??!

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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 3:17PM Dblade said

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Not sure why PC gaming is a more cerebral experience, considering that a majority of it's top-tier games are console ports, FPS, and MMOs. Everyone squees over minecraft but consoles have been making sleeper hits for years, and have defined genres.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 3:34PM Triskelion said

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Not sure why pc gaming is more cerebral then console games? My 8 year old can turn on the XBRICK and play a game, pc's require a lot more input and control then consoles do. The average console gamer is much, much younger then the average pc gamer for obvious reasons. Consoles are basically dumb terminals with a controller.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 3:47PM Dblade said

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So it's more cerebral because it's more of a pain in the ass to get the thing running?

As for input and control, I honestly think PC MMO titles controls suck. F-key spamming and wasd movement never feel as natural as a good gamepad, and there really isn't that much difference outside of FPS and RTS. With FFXI personally, I've reacted faster with better control and movement using gamepad controls, and in a game like Champions Online where fast movement happens, is where you really start to see the limits of the WASD setup.

A lot of MMOs could actually be pared down to work better with a gamepad than with current WASD controls.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 5:10PM Skyydragonn said

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Shame people voted your comment down becuase a lot of people share that view and that helps keep the console market alive. However i do disagree with your " $2k every 2 yrs" My Pc is "old" by most standards its not even supported by its Motherboard/proccessor manufacturer and is still a single core AMD. But it still runs a good deal of more recent games and won't even cost me $1000 to upgrade to a quad core system. Thats counting for a new Motherboard/proccessor, RAM, powersupply and possibly a larger HDD if i've got the funds for it.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 5:17PM Triskelion said

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I buy, or I was buying a new gaming pc about every 2+ years. At that point the leap in both cpu speeds and video cards warranted the upgrade to run everything as close as possible to "max" without taking on a performance hit.

My home machine is about 2.5 years old now, and I was going to upgrade it for Crysis 2 but then I saw that the game will also be available for consoles and decided not to. My machine will still run 90% of the games out there, whereas a console will run 100%. A thousand dollars is a lot of money to spend on gaming every 2 years. I have a wife, 4 kids and a mortgage, she would %$#@ if I spent that kind of money right now.

I am a professional debater, I can argue both sides and I have - but for me the bottom line is money is super tight right now (Christmas is coming, birthdays, etc.) and I have no budget for pc upgrades or overhauls.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 11:35AM (Unverified) said

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You know, I normally try to refrain from commenting on Massively's articles, but this time....I GOT OPINIONS!

Why on EARTH would you make a console only MMO? You know what, before the gripes about that, I'll tell you why: Because these undead labs guys are just looking to make a name for themselves. "First studio to ever put out a console MMOFPS" is what they're looking to be called, and that's it.

I'm sure they care about the game, but the fact that they would put something as stupid as an achievement like that above putting out a good game that everyone can enjoy just really irks me!

And don't you try to tell me that is what they're doing!

Anyone who sets out to create an MMO, especially those who have EXPERIENCE with MMOs, would instantly recognize that you're biggest percentage of users are going to be PC gamers. Why? Well, there are several reasons.

My favorite is that the vast majority of hardcore MMO players are rebellious young fellows that don't like to own popular consoles because of the fact that ANYONE can just go buy a console and pop a game in it. PC games take a bit more thought and intuition than console games, since you often run into installation issues and compatibility problems; then you have to use your brain to figure out how to make your game work on your setup.

I mean, really, who honestly wants to play an online game that could have any sort of real social factor via a controller with two joysticks and a few buttons? Sure, voice chat is nice, but some times it just takes away from the quality of your experience. Honestly, I'd rather see a barely readable sentence on a screen than hear the annoying, high pitched voice of some twelve year old kid trying to be serious about something other than poptarts and dinosaurs.

And if they end up handing out a keyboard to console players, or even a keyboard and mouse, why can't I just use those with my COMPUTER that already calls for such peripherals!?

MMOs on consoles are such a ridiculous concept to me. The way I see it, consoles are for single player and co-op games, and computers are for massively multi player games. For some reason, a computer screen and that nice, cozy keyboard and mouse seem to just allow me to slip into the MMO world that much easier.

Posted: Oct 6th 2010 11:38AM (Unverified) said

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I really should have spell checked this, but...eh, who cares.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 3:37PM Dblade said

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It works great on a console, actually. You don't ever have to dial down graphics settings to get it to run on your console, and a gamepad is a lot more natural for moving in 3-D space than mouselook. You also can use much bigger screens, have less overall cheats and third-party mods driving gameplay, and ten times the security since consoles have yet to be infected with malware.

Heck, a console-only MMO can kill RMT if they use the xbox live model just because they can't easily replace banned characters.

Most of the problems of the early console MMOs were things like using local storage that was vulnerable to character modding and hacking (phantasy star online) no HD (everquest online adventures) and sub-par graphics performance. (FFXI.) I think most have been addressed.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 12:33PM (Unverified) said

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L4D MMO?

pass.

Posted: Oct 6th 2010 1:18PM Cirocco said

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I was just thinking this. Why MMO when you already have L4D on PC for all that co-op zombie survivor goodness? Besides the Resident Evil series on the consoles is still going strong. I'm betting this looks better on paper than actual practice.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2010 1:37PM Valentina said

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Why are all post-apocalyptic earth MMO's purely sandbox?

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