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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 11:04AM (Unverified) said

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/yawn

game died along time ago, it's just Farmville with dungeons now.

Thanks Activision!

Posted: Oct 4th 2010 11:22AM Rich said

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That's the sad part, your not really that off on that.
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 12:15PM yeppers said

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*you're
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 2:30PM yavo said

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so release dates have been..

Tuesday, November 23, 2004: Release of World of Warcraft
Tuesday, January 16, 2007: Release of The Burning Crusade
Thursday, November 13, 2008: Release of Wrath of the Lich King

IMO the only good one was the one they pushed til after christmas when it was ready, what is the list of cool features they dropped again to be able to get this out before christmas, its gonna fail cuz it was made with greed instead of love :)
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 10:27AM Snichy said

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Left WoW about a year ago hoping to find something else but never really did and now for some inexplicable reason am feeling the need to go back, regardless of the expansion. If only the majority of the community wasnt so bad I never would have left!

Im sure I will go back at some point after the crowds have dispersed but jsut hope that another game comes along to blow me away before that happens (fingers crossed Rift, Tera or Secret World...!)

Posted: Oct 4th 2010 10:44AM (Unverified) said

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The community will probably never improve. It's too accessible, and runs on such mediocre hardware... the dragnet has been cast wide, and it's not getting smaller.

Blizzard was aiming for the casual gamer, and they got it. Reap, meet sow, I'm sure you'll be very happy together.

And before all you Blizzard fanboi's get your knickers in a knot, consider this: Take the most active chat channel, of all the chat channels on your WoW server (any server) and repost it on the Internet for all to see.

Now run that text through the ratings for movies. Would it ever NOT be NC-17 / 18+ / R / X ? Casual indeed.
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 10:56AM Snichy said

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Yeah and unfortunately Blizzards argument for the casualness of it will always be "10m subscribers cant be wrong!" Shame, really.
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 11:10AM archer75 said

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The community has gotten really bad, mostly on my server, so I quit. It just too the enjoyment out of the game for me.

For me, WoW has become a GUI for Excel. It used to be a fantasy world you could escape to. Now it's just number crunching which has killed what was special about it. I miss the old days.

That said i'm now playing other shooters and strategy games i've been neglecting and having a lot more fun.
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 11:27AM archipelagos said

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Any game with a large number of subcribers, fans, whatever will be a cesspit of a community; it's not a Blizz only problem: it's a gaming problem (you could even suggest it's an online issue). The gaming community in general is not a pleasant or nice thing. You only need to look at any live service be it Steam, X-box, PS3, anything, to see it.
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 11:39AM Ocho said

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Its true, the community won't get any better. However, r2d242 is pointing at the wrong problem. He thinks its due to the casual gamer, which isn't true. Casual gamers are older and more mature as a whole. The downgrade in community has been because of its popularity and greater numbers. The more you let in total, the more immature people you bring in. And sadly, those immature people are the most vocal, which is why they highlight the downgrade in community.

Me personally, I won't be going back to WoW. Plenty of other MMO's to spend some time in that have better communities and better overall gameplay for my preferences. LotRO's communitty has gone downhill, but its also due to this same rule. Bigger influx of players, a greater number of immature people, the more vocal they are. But with LotRO, its very easy to level past them. In WoW, they're everywhere.

So overall, don't blame us mature casuals for the ruining of a community, r2. WoW was great when it was first available and the communities were much smaller. Its only been the past few years that its really gone downhill.
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 11:54AM i2hellfire said

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as the most vocal whiners voice their asinine complaints, the vast majority of people will just quietly keep playing the game they enjoy.
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 12:08PM Rihahn said

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@ Super Healer

You might want to try one of the RP servers, even if you aren't "RP"... The population tends to be much more mature and while trade chat is still abysmal, it's not 'total cesspit' like it is on the PVP/PVE servers.

I too quit over the contents of the community, but was lured back by some friends on Wyrmrest - and I have to say it's been quite nice playing on that server.
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 12:22PM Snichy said

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@Rihahn, thanks, I had heard that too and was going to suggest it in my comment but didnt want to annoy all the real RP-ers out there by making it public and possibly opening up their servers to the rest of us....! :)
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 6:56PM Its Utakata stupid said

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I agree with Mike. In fact, most of the immature I've witnessed tend to be very pro-hardcore. And oft the first to complain if Blizz tries to make the game a little more inclusive. /shrug
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Posted: Oct 7th 2010 6:38AM NeverDeath said

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TERA is going to be awesome, finally an MMO where skill is a more valuable percentage of the competitive play equation - hell, even the PvE scripting looks excellent and engaging. I am definitely going to order it and kill the hell out of all these WoWkids who call themselves gamers these days.

RIFT looks really cool too, I was surprised I hadn't heard more about the title when I learned about the "souls" system, which is something I've been saying would be great for years - rewarding players with active abilities instead of passive power increases (such as gear) as the primary focus of progression.

Definitely some "nextgen" additions being made to the genre in some of these upcoming releases. Cataclysm doesn't seem to be offering anything on that front, however - though quite unsurprisingly. WoW's motto has been to play it safe and generate the largest income it can while it's still relevant which of course has been for much longer than it should have been, largely due to the amount of new-generation "gamers" who want everything handed to them - a pathetic attitude which Blizzard is happy not only to oblige but to reward. Enjoy rewards capping out at 10man difficulty, recycled content (lol heroic Deadmines) and two "new" NPC-spawned races only a fraction as original as the last batch with no noteworthy changes to actual gameplay mechanics unless you count further homogenization and simplification of the classes and the introduction of the Cerebral-Palsy friendly talent system. That tells you what spec lines are for in case you're mentally disabled in which case you still won't understand but hey, since when does Blizzard make intelligent design decisions anyway, right?.

WoW's population has stagnated because old players end up quitting when they realize there is nothing challenging to do in the game even after three expansions, and they are quitting at an equal rate to new players joining - according to Blizzard representatives themselves. How someone could continue to play this game save for a large number of females (who enjoy vanity pets, fishing and simplistic gameplay they don't have to pay too much attention to), for any substantial length of time, is beyond me. While some games might not be as well-rounded as WoW, who manages to at least program a stable client even if the content therein is terribly unimpressive - If you have a particular interest, other games have WoW beat heavily in specific aspects of gameplay. WAR has PvP covered, AoC has some very good PvE, and games like TERA and RIFT are looking like they're going to be better in many of these aspects than anything out right now. I wonder how many temporary subs Cataclysm will generate before they are back to stagnation.
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Posted: Oct 4th 2010 10:32AM (Unverified) said

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Finally.

Posted: Oct 4th 2010 10:32AM Suspiro said

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World of What??

Posted: Oct 4th 2010 10:41AM Dandmcd said

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Very cool, I have been looking forward to the expansion. I've never been more excited to level an alt, they are doing a stunning job in updating the Old World to make it feel new again. I recently came back to the game to see the old content before it changes, and have been enjoying using the Dungeon Finder, something that didn't exist in the game when I last played 4 years ago.

Posted: Oct 4th 2010 10:51AM Pingles said

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Quit a long ti e ago but am actually excited about jumping back in to visit new Azeroth. Can't imagine I'll stay long but definitely gonna resub for this.

Posted: Oct 4th 2010 10:55AM Stormwaltz said

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A date that shall live in infamy.

I look forward to seeing the number of "sick" days taken.

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