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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 12:56AM Audacious said

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Why didn't Earth Eternal get all this bellyaching about it from Massively when its creators said it was going away?

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 1:01AM Brianna Royce said

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http://www.massively.com/2010/08/08/earth-eternal-facing-the-prospect-of-shutdown/
http://www.massively.com/2010/09/14/earth-eternal-showing-signs-of-life/

I think a lot more of the staff played APB, and to be frank, APB was a whole lot *louder* than EE. But we *did* cover EE! ;)

-Bree
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 3:18AM sp00t said

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Plus Earth Eternal didn't cost $60 to start up.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 2:06AM (Unverified) said

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seriously enough crap about APB..... this is getting dumb. the first post about it closing was enough and shoulda been left at that.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 5:05AM Lobotomist said

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What about RTW refunding the people that bought APB.

Especially lifetime subscribers ?

Its all poor RTW this, poor RTW that. While in the same time its one of biggest stinks in MMO history!

What about people that bought APB few days before closing (they advertised new patch just days before)


Do you know that they only closed the game so they could sell it to EPIC , which didnt want to purchase active game.


I think media should be writing about that.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 6:10AM (Unverified) said

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How can a company that has gone bankrupt, ie no money, refund people?

Also there is no lifetime option for APB, please don't troll just for the sake of trolling.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:54AM Lobotomist said

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I just wish to understand what is the motive of posters like you defending companies that harm players ?

First you are not protecting employees of RTW. They fired them all anyway.
The guy behind APB is multimilioner with several Alpha Romeos in his garage. He did not lose nothing (except opportunity to get even richer)

Now instead running one zombie server for APB (which costs almost nothing) and giving his customers what they payed for. He simply closes the game in order to sell the code to EPIC.

While some people had still running subscriptions.


and ps.
There was a lifetime option in APB.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 8:18AM (Unverified) said

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There was NO lifetime option for APB.

No one is defending RTW's actions, there were some seriously incompetent people working there for one reason or another. Dave Jones may be one of these people, or he could just be a designer with no business sense running a business, which is another problem entirely.

The reason many people keep going on about APB is because there was some good there, the idea was sound, the design was alright and some of the features worked great. Through out all its flaws, it still had potential, it was truely new and innovative.

Companies go bankrupt every day all around the world, the service they offer no longer becomes available, this is how it is. Deal with it.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:21AM Lobotomist said

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Question here is not about companies going bankrupt. Some other MMOs got their plug pulled (although never as quick). Question is if you bought the game , you should be able to play it. Its your right as a consumer.

If they can not run the servers anymore , they should either give you a possibility to play offline , or release server code. This should be a standard way of business for discontinued MMOs

Instead here RTW. Killed MMO after just 3 months. Just so they can sell it to Epic games. They didnt close the game because they could not run it anymore.

They will be payed for the game. So players should get reimbursed from that money.

And again yes

APB had lifetime program. It was not called lifetime but it was similar.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:36AM Unverfied B said

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"Let the buyer beware... if an investment scheme sounds too good to be true, it probably is."

The problem is that it wasn't. It was pretty crappy, and i would guess when this scheme started it was legitimate.

With how such investment systems work in EVE the question is not IF you will be scammed but WHEN.

Don't give players false sense of security, they should be ready to loose any money that leaves their bank account. As long as game mechanics and policies work like today no investment will be 100% secure.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 12:46PM (Unverified) said

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APB a game I followed for the last few years and looked promising. They under delivered and straight up lied to the press and their fans. It was supposed to be a game that had 100 players in a district which ended up being only 80. Their excuse was the technology wasn't stable enough to support 100. That's fine, but why are you still advertising the game that it supports this amount of players? Even David Jones said 100 players in a zone after the game's release, you can't tell me a CEO and Creative Director didn't know that.

Another thing, they said time and time again it had no monthly fee. A few months from release they change their mind and that was another nail in the coffin. Furthermore, the game was supposed to ship with a Chaos ruleset which IMO would have helped in trying to save the game.

People left in droves because of a shitty matchmaking system that pitted a newb against a player with full character slots and upgraded weapons but ya he lost a few matches so the newb gets to fight him now.

Hacks and more hacks. So many hackers in this game ruined the experience for those that chose not too. RTW didn't have the manpower to deal with this issue because you even had well known hackers posting youtube videos showing them hacking yet they weren't banned?

Customization was amazing, hands down the best i've seen in the genre but it will only take you so far out of the gate. The gameplay got very boring and repetative. Why couldn't you have turf wars in districts or rob banks etc? It was the same shitty ass missions which was only used to set up the pvp.

40 vs 40 in a zone, did you ever see that? The highest match I ever got was 10vs10.

Game had the potential, but at 100 million dollars it boggles my mind. Star Wars: The Old Republic is rumoured to cost around 150 million. Yet they have a fully voiced game with hundreds of hours of content. APB had a few lines of dialogue and a handful of bland missions.

Burn in hell RTW, and David Jones you fucked up big time. Good luck ever getting funding again. APB was supposed to be the spiritual successor to GTA, what a load of horse shit.

RIP APB

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