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Posted: Sep 17th 2010 5:44PM EdmundDante said

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BUSTED!

Interesting ... Eve boils over with corruption and scams, and the devs know this. Here we have one that is not far different from in-game scams, but RL.

Wonder how big the penalty will be - and how long in the penalty box?

Posted: Sep 17th 2010 5:56PM Arsinek said

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Meh, how is that the players fault? Unless they altered code or something along those lines its on the developers not the players. Thats like blaming someone else for something you broke.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2010 6:23PM (Unverified) said

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Jebro: abusing a bug instead of reporting it is *totally* the player's fault.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2010 6:24PM (Unverified) said

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@jebro The bug, not so much the players fault. Exploiting the bug in question, 100% the players fault.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2010 10:57AM (Unverified) said

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And, in the end, it's not an issue of right or wrong. I'm sure EVE, like every other MMO, has something in their terms of service that basically says "if the player exploits one of the game maker's mistakes, we will ban the player".

So, the players agreed to the ToS, they broke the ToS, they get banned. Right, wrong, fair, unfair, whatever, doesn't enter into it. The rules were stated, the rules were broken, consequences are applied.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2010 7:40PM (Unverified) said

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@Jslim419

That is the best analogy/metaphor for a bug I have ever read in my life!

You, sir, win +1 Internets!

Bravo!
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Posted: Sep 17th 2010 5:49PM DrewIW said

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CCP should hire me, I understand the difference between signed and unsigned numbers.

Posted: Sep 17th 2010 6:05PM Brendan Drain said

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It's plausible that the reason they do it the way they do is because they use it for sentry guns. Sentry guns seem to exhibit the same behaviour as someone using the exploit, able to hit at any range, track any target and always hit for the maximum damage.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2010 6:13PM DrewIW said

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Sentry guns have the normal hit variation though. They get the normal spread of glancing, normal, and critical hits.

This exploit causes every shot to hit for the same damage, so it's likely different than the sentry gun implementation.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2010 7:39AM Unverfied B said

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This is even funnier, considering their server code runs on python that doesn't HAVE unsigned types >.>
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Posted: Sep 18th 2010 12:27PM DrewIW said

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Python doesn't, but MSSQL has tinyints, as well as user defined types.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2010 5:51PM Vrazule said

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I find it interesting and a bit disturbing that the majority of the news that ever comes out about Eve is about hackers, cheaters, bullies and all around bad behavior on the part of players and the game's developers who seem to ignore if not outright encourage these issues.

Posted: Sep 17th 2010 10:00PM Laephis said

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I'm guessing you don't watch the real news very often? Because it's always slanted toward negative stories. Disaster and scandal sells.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2010 11:07AM Vrazule said

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And yet, in the world of MMOs, the majority of stories are exactly that, happy and upbeat. Hence my comment that in the usual flow of MMO news, Eve stands out as the black sheep and deservedly so.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2010 5:53PM (Unverified) said

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Actually, GM correspondence confirms this isn't an exploit (although it's pretty dirty).

Posted: Sep 17th 2010 6:06PM Brendan Drain said

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I have heard from a very reliable source inside Rooks and Kings that GMs have in fact declared this to be an exploit. Any player abusing this exploit may be issued with a warning or a game ban.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2010 6:11PM (Unverified) said

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Players taking advantage of bad programming to do unintended integer sign extension is not exploiting? Sure. Spin away.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2010 6:29PM (Unverified) said

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Your reliable source isn't very reliable. We have not yet received any confirmation from the GMs to suggest this (i.e. that this is an exploit).
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Posted: Sep 17th 2010 6:11PM EdmundDante said

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An interesting moral dilemma. However, given past precedent - when it has been discovered an exploit is being used by players - the players get penalized.

Posted: Sep 17th 2010 6:10PM (Unverified) said

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From an EVE-O thread in regards to a link to this article:

"Link detailing exploit removed. Zymurgist "

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