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Posted: Sep 12th 2010 5:49AM Psychotic Storm said

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No, but you can take the money in, PLEX is RMT and any of the ISK invested and then stolen that comes from PLEX is in effect real money stolen that affects the users wallets.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2010 8:05AM Unverfied B said

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Read the TOS, there's no method to convert isk to irl cache that's legit.

Selling PLEX (in game item) for $ is just as banable as selling ISK.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2010 8:47PM LaughingTarget said

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If he can convert this to $45k and get banned, I doubt he'd care. Though the hourly salary is terrible. He'd have been better off flipping burgers part time.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2010 9:36PM BrianH said

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except this is probably something he was doing with his free time, and not like a job.

so even if it is a "bad" hourly rate, it's 45,000 more than if he was playing call of duty.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2010 11:57PM Dragotx said

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Crap like this is why I stopped playing. The game is designed to benefit tards like this, while penalizing players that actually treat people decently. It's not just a problem with high level fraud like this, it goes all the way down to pirates using holes in the agro system to greif care bears in high sec. If we wanted to pvp, we'd go out to low sec and take our chances. It got to the point I couldn't even go out into .8 or .9 space and mine without some asshat trying to trick me into giving him attack rights. Hell, my corp lost several battleships to a team of pirates that used some kind of hole in the system to get combat rights against us, yet NONE of us could join the fight, including the one he'd originally flaged somehow.

Posted: Sep 12th 2010 2:30AM ultimateq said

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This guy invested years into his plan. And he played it out really well. He's far from a tard, most gamers can't invest more than 10 hours into something before they get bored of it. If you ask me, he's pretty damned smart, and EXTREMELY patient.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2010 5:32AM Ragemaster9999 said

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you guys got killed because you didnt understand what aggro mechanics were. Its not a hole, its not an exploit, its a game mechanic that you failed to understand and use to your advantage.

Iv been apart of (many) ganker corps and all we did was grief carebears noobs and non pvpers, so im pretty much an Einstein on this topic. Yes its boring killing noobs, no we dont really get anything from it, except for all the QQ in local and epic threads on C&P.

However, instead of trying to learn what went wrong, and improve your game, you QQ and quit. Eve is a game of cutthroat war and you HAVE to adapt to your mistakes, or your toast.

Theres plenty of other games where everyone is holding hands and theres no foul play, and everyone just waits their turn for the drop, if thats what your looking for , your in the wrong game friend

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Posted: Sep 11th 2010 11:58PM MewmewGrrl said

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We really do hear about these every month or so. Here's an idea, morons, stop using these "investment" guys!

Posted: Sep 12th 2010 5:14AM Dblade said

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No one gets this. Everyone thinks how cool it is to scam people, but scammers are the reason EVE has no real investment services, no banks, not many couriers, and not many public contracts. It's also why it's so hard just to find a decent corporation, or why pirates can't ransom. Without trust you can't do much of anything.

You'd be a fool to try an investment service in EVE.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2010 2:38AM Critical Mass said

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Does Eve online have some kind of vault system?

A system where a number of people must together open a lock/container/account in order to be able to get anything out at all.

Posted: Sep 12th 2010 3:18AM GaaaaaH said

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That's what the votes were for. The items were locked down unless a majority vote to unlock them passed, but the others carelessly gave him more shares than the rest of them combined at once (IE a majority).
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Posted: Sep 12th 2010 3:17PM Dirame said

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What happened to them was unfortunate. Their own blindness got the best of them. I am surprised that someone would do that for in-game money but I feel no remorse because it seemed obvious, from here, what that guy was trying to do.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2010 3:07AM Dranaerys said

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An admirable long con.

Posted: Sep 12th 2010 4:23AM Jade Effect said

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So does this mean the trustees are now responsible for the money that disappeared? If so, I hope the investors take it out of their hide for failing in their duties.

Personally, my MMO motto is : never hand over anyone anything unless I'm willing to give it away, or I know their name and where they live.

Posted: Sep 12th 2010 6:14AM Psychotic Storm said

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And here comes the end of the newest EVE vid, try to take revenge from that?

he makes an alt (he claims he already has several and why doubt that) and never logs this one ever again.

Posted: Sep 12th 2010 7:19AM Dblade said

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That's the whole point, that there is no risk from doing it. EVE is carebear at its heart: it's players take advantage of every protection to grief or scam without opening themselves up to retribution. Even down to trading or scamming in local: there's no way to wardec an npc corp member you don't like.

There's always an easy out. This guy can just buy an alt account for free now, and play like nothing is wrong despite swindling people for billions of isk. Carebearing at its finest: he escapes any consequence from his actions.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2010 10:09AM (Unverified) said

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Thing is, surely CCP WILL be keeping an eye on this guys huge fortune and asking questions if he buys that amount of PLEX or his vast wealth goes overnight, or he splits it across alt accounts to 'launder' it....obvious RMT should earn him a ban and CCP should not be so naive to think that if he conned the playerbase, he wouldnt do the same to them with the same enthusiasm.

Posted: Sep 12th 2010 10:04PM ultimateq said

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If I could sell it all off in 1 shot, I would happily take the ban.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2010 8:38AM ChaosInc said

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Seriously, it you just made $45k in an "non-legit" transaction, would you really care about an account ban? Especially in this situation where the person is most like going to use start a new toon to plan the next scam. A account ban is a slap on the wrist when you consider the actual figures. Just go spend the .03% of your profit and buy a new account.

Posted: Sep 13th 2010 5:06AM Mcgreag said

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But there are no way you could make that. No RMT service would pay full market price, if they did how would they make any money when selling it.

First their selling price must be a considerably lower than PLEX price to get people to use them instead. Then they need to have a very large profit margin because they know just as well anyone that CCP will keep an eye on this money. The risk needs to be calculated into the potential profit.

I would be surprised if he could get more than 5k$. Still a descent amount of cash but it's already down into the realm of is it worth it or not.
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