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Posted: Sep 11th 2010 6:00AM archipelagos said

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I have to admit that I honestly did not see FFXIV being so divisive; that it has turned out to be a genuine hate it or love it game is pretty interesting.

Posted: Sep 11th 2010 9:58AM (Unverified) said

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So much hate...
Honestly guys, even if the game has its flaws - there is time and resource on the management side to fix things up once things start going.... Nothing can be 'perfect' in the beginning, nor to the satisfaction of many others.

I know, UI sucks, quests are pretty bland, gathering is simple and time consuming... but, you know, it's different from the 100s of other MMOs out there, even a bit different from FFXI.

People adapt to these different controls, some people don't, that is their decision, but saying all the negative things about the game to push away players is the most annoying thing about these communities - people have different opinions about any game, and before I tried out this game, all the naysayers almost stopped me but trying out the beta... Well, I have a different opinion now.

It's different, it's clunky, but it's not a bad game for everyone... just keep that in your minds.

Posted: Sep 11th 2010 10:24AM Audacious said

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Can't you see? These things already are pushing people away. You're right in that people will adapt... -some- people, and maybe they'll be enough to make back the money Square Enix spent on the elaborate (if repetitive) visuals, but the audience will be far smaller than it could be due to all the game's shortcomings.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2010 11:04AM archipelagos said

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Negative commentary always has it's place, as much as it may displease a lot of people it is very much needed. There's a lot of churlish behaviour on both sides at the moment and it's VERY frustrating for someone trying to understand just what has gone wrong for the game to generate such a bad buzz. The argument that it's some kind of hater-fueled campaign to stop people playing XIV needs to be put down like a rabid dog. There's no smoke without fire.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2010 12:26PM Laren said

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After playing this beta for a couple more hours, my guess is the resource requirements are what are going to "push people away". I'd bet a fair chunk of change that the 'UI problems' people are complaining about would be a non-issue if this game wasn't such a resource hog.

My system is no slouch... not top of the line, but better than average (core i5 760, gtx 460). The game, and more importantly, the UI is sluggish, even with dialed down settings.

It seems like they are running this game in some home-brewed emulator (so they can have one version for PC/PS3 maybe?). The graphics are very nice, but really don't warrant what is required to run them.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2010 12:36PM Dranaerys said

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The irony here is that the game is supposedly catered to attract the MMO newbie, and I cannot think of any game that is more MMO-newbie unfriendly than this game is. Everything from demanding high spec PCs to a clunky, user-unfriendly interface and control scheme plots agasint you from the very moment you log in.

I am not hating the game for hating's sake, I was the first person pumped up on this game to give me a break from the traditional MMO, but when the price to pay for that are so many convoluted and fumbled, archaic elements and facets of gamplay (even things as simple as control schemes), so many HOOPS to jump through, so many annoying obstacles to tackle, byt the time I actually get to the good stuff (and it isnt even particularly good at this point), the game has sucked any enjoyment at all out of the experience for me.

I want to like the game - I love the setting, I love the music, I love the graphics, but every time I log in, every time I attempt to acomplish anything, the game does its damn best to send me screaming into the arms of any other MMO. Even Aion coddles me, in comparison to the abuse one must endure to advance in FF14.

I really do wonder to whom this game is aimed at, but if it really is the newbies, the casuals, then by god, Square really need to reasess who they hire for game designers, becasue they really missed the mark on that one in every single aspect this time around.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2010 12:57PM (Unverified) said

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In the same boat as Dranaerys, I want to love this game. I spent some of my best gaming years on FFXI and was hoping FFXIV brings the magic back, but it simply falls short. I'll keep an open eye on it, but I cancelled my pre-order.

For those saying it's not the final game, well why don't they tell us what's in the final retail version of the game? I would love to know what's coming and what will change in retail, right now I can't justify putting my money blindly at this game.

Posted: Sep 11th 2010 1:46PM (Unverified) said

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A gorgeous game that tries to be unique but eats your system for lunch. Sad how badly I want to love and enjoy this game. To me, its been nothing but a huge timesink, with nothing pushing me to log in and do more than a couple levequests. I don't know if its the server lag or my pc, but the time it takes for something simple like npcs to load is terrible. Please give me a reason to devote my time to ff14. I want to but I am frustrated.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2010 2:32PM Ryukan said

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This was about the most anti-immersive MMO game I have ever experienced in my 10 years of playing MMO's. Boring combat, boring story, annoying crafting mechanics, poor control setup and overly menu driven. I also dislike 70% of the character art and at least 50% of the mob/critter art, but that is just my personal dislike of the silly anime elements. I won't even get started on the lack of content and the absurd Fatigue system. I am surprised FFXIV is actually p2p and not f2p.

I could not get interested in it at all during beta. I almost see FFXIV as "future contender for going f2p". I mean, it is about the only Asian MMO out there that is not f2p hehe.

Posted: Sep 11th 2010 5:20PM Iphrit said

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Not sure if I'm MMO starved or what, but I played in both closed and open betas, and I'll probably play at release. The game is fun, but only if you have the time and patience to deal with the horrible UI and controls, or if you just like FF games in general.

In fact, I keep thinking what really drags me back is because of how it reminds me of old school JRPGs; the music, sounds, monster designs, that unique Japanese quirkiness.. it's all there, but this time it's in MMO form. I'm screwed.

Posted: Sep 11th 2010 5:28PM Alboreo said

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I like how when someone says something negative about the game's features, people start a shitstorm about how it isn't a WoW clone and they should go "QQ moar casualfags".

In this day and age, it's inexcusable for a game to be as unfriendly to its users as this is. It wasn't okay for FFXI, and it came out in 2002; it was, however, more excusable then than it is today.

A tooltip does not break a game's immersion; neither does a good map with NPC/quest markers. These are not things that WoW introduced, so it seems silly to me that people instantly go off on a tangent when they're mentioned and say that that's how games were before WoW. That isn't true at all; in fact, you're giving Blizzard much more credit than Blizzard really deserves.

I digress. I actually am one of the few people who are stuck in the middle when it comes to having an opinion on FFXIV. I believe that the game brings several good things to the table, although some extremely rough (if not game-breaking) things also exist.

If these things are beta-only or SE has announced that they will fix them (Lack of NPC Markers, Tool-Tips, 48 Hour Cooldown, Lack of Direction, etc.), I would greatly appreciate it if someone would let me know. I want this game to be good. Sincerely. But as it stands, it's going to drive off a lot of players within a few hours of beginning the game.

Posted: Sep 11th 2010 5:35PM Alboreo said

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Also, despite the fact that no one probably cares, I figured that I would include a list of things that I like/dislike about the game.

Like:
Character/Monster/World designs.
Graphics.
The concept of Guildleves.
The ability to be in more than one guild at a time (Linkshell).
The ease of switching classes.
The ease of travel (teleportation, return).
Class/Strength Levels being seperate.
No more Playonline Client. :)
The inclusion of crafting/gathering classes.

Dislike:
Lack of tooltips.
Poor ui/control scheme.
The map/map controls/map markers are all just horrible.
Crafting is tedious despite its necessity.
Lack of direction.
Limits on Guildleve quests as well as fatigue (although fatigue isn't a huge deal).
Lack of NPC/Quest markers.
Once again, controls/ui. Christ.
There isn't any housing yet. I hope they fix that quickly.
The classes are less interesting and less numerous than in FFXI. Considerably so.
Gear, at least at low levels, is very dull. That probably changes later, though.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2010 6:45PM archipelagos said

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Thanks for the list! This makes it easier for folk like to me to figure stuff out.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2010 6:31PM Its Utakata stupid said

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I look at Final Fantasy XIV's release with the same dread and wonder I look at WoW's next expansion, Cataclysm. That is, it looks like a wonderful game that comes with serious issues of control freakish baggage and a really smug assumption that people will buy it anyway despite all it's flaws because it's Final Fantasy.

Posted: Sep 11th 2010 9:44PM (Unverified) said

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After playing both closed and open beta, I've come to the decision to cancel my regular edition preorder, but keep my CE. Vast amount of problems with the game, and people telling me it's because it's beta can go shove it. Yes, I do realize the game can change over time, as that's what the genre is all about. And it's the reason why I'm keeping my CE.

But this last part of open beta is a demo. The only difference between now and launch is we'll have more servers, more content and...well, that's about it really. As an avid MMO player since pre-XI days, I expect hiccups at launch.

Not a game that feels so incomplete and still right in the middle of early development. It honestly seems, like XIII, SE spent 80% of the their time and resource on visuals. That may have worked for XI, but not after WoW and all the other MMOs to have been released since then. Most MMO players could give a rats ass on how pretty a game is if it plays like absolute crap.

And to you XIV fanboys, sure, you all probably will be happy to have a smaller community. But do you really think SEs board of directors, their investors and even their own staff will be happy with the fact that instead of exceeding XIs prime population, they may only match it?

XIV has to deal with several stellar looking MMOs coming out in the next year. GW2, TERA, Rift, Firefall....hell, even SE published Wakfu was more interesting to play at PAX then XIV was.

This game is pretty, but there really isn't too much under all the glamour.

Posted: Sep 11th 2010 10:56PM Alboreo said

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You are quite welcome.

Posted: Sep 12th 2010 5:30PM (Unverified) said

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Bad game is bad.

Posted: Sep 16th 2010 1:15PM GarthimMaster said

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No jumping. No PvP. Linear zones. Improper optimization for the keyboard/mouse players?

When these issues are all combined I am wondering where the bright side of this game is? I think I will join the beta while I still can to see the real deal with this game. I wasn't even considering playing this but all of the bad press makes me seriously wonder how it could build so much hate in the matter of a few weeks.

Now I just have to see for myself.

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