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Posted: Sep 9th 2010 8:07PM Joshua Przygocki said

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So are they basing the game pretty much on gear?

IMHO it's kinda stupid... a game involving you creating a superhero should let you make em look the way you want... Gear stats shouldn't define your looks...

A lot of MMOs are picking up on the trend of appearance armor, I even heard a rumor of WoW adding it with Cataclysm... If people wanna show off their e-peen they can link their gear or have people inspect them...

Posted: Sep 9th 2010 8:33PM (Unverified) said

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Stats don't determine how you look. The appearance system is like appearance slots in LOTRO or EQ2. You have your stats gear and your appearance gear. Once you collect a piece of gear you can turn that gear appearance on or off. So you're always in control of how you look.

Also an added bonus, once you collect a piece of gear, you always own its appearance. So say you get a helmet that you like but you don't have enough inventory slots to keep the helmet. You can go and sell or destroy the helmet but it remains in you can still use the helmet in your appearance slot..
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Posted: Sep 9th 2010 8:43PM Joshua Przygocki said

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Thanks for some clarification, though I still prefer the CO or CoX methods.
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Posted: Sep 10th 2010 9:33AM Snichy said

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I am one of the many who like to change appearance based on what I am wearing, makes it seem more real and give you something to aspire to as you level up.

In CO i would design what I thought to be an awesome costume/hero but within a few levels I was bored of the appearance and would change it, removing any notion of immersion or personality from my character.

I like acquiring loot and I like it to change my appearance, good or bad.
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Posted: Sep 9th 2010 9:16PM ravenstorm said

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Does anyone know if they've actually started beta yet? I haven't heard anything about beta starting, yet the game releases in less than 8 weeks. There's really no time left to do anything substantial with feedback. Seems pretty worrisome, but I guess we'll see.

Posted: Sep 9th 2010 9:28PM (Unverified) said

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They are in beta. Its just not public. There will not be a long drawn out beta test like other MMO's. The game is up and running. Looks like they need to smooth out the performance still...the game stutters a little. There is a new interview up at gamespot with gameplay footage. I don't have a link handy, sorry.
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Posted: Sep 9th 2010 9:39PM (Unverified) said

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now-a-days open beta is simply a preview to buy... it has nothing to do with actual feedback, as by the time they 'ship', they only have time to update small things and not really add advanced content.

By squashing bugs and keeping things in house, they limit bad press until after people spend, they keep a mystery around the game, and they focus on simply making the game feel 'less buggy', rather than catering to the beta crowd that inevitably clouds the forums in betas... the 'you should have' crowd.

open beta = not much now-a-days
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Posted: Sep 9th 2010 9:50PM ravenstorm said

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Yeah, the link to the Gamespot interview is in the article above. I've already read that. That's about a hands-on media demo for Gamespot, not closed beta testing. I know they've been taking beta applications for a while now, but as far as I know, no one has actually gotten in yet, other than friends and family alpha people. I did find a thread elsewhere about it — looks like as of yesterday, there was still no news about the closed beta, and no one reporting they've received an invitation. Bummer.
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Posted: Sep 9th 2010 10:25PM SiML said

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Thanks for the info Jens - thats a catagorical "NO" from me then and saves me from having to try it.

Making new characters and having a great cossie creator is a massive plus in any MMO, calling it as a "fluff-fest" is a deal-breaker for me personally as i have no intention of grinding through all the contacts for the best cossie pieces.

" less choices upfront but more meaningful ones as you go through the game." - Meaningful?, sorry Jens, i just don't buy it... no wonder SOE has been quiet about this up till a month from release. Its a bit of a lame excuse for having a bare-bones CC.

Fair play and good luck to you Jens and the rest of the SoE team ( i think you're gonna need it somehow) PvP'ers (in general) are not known for their tolerance of PvE grinding.
To everyone else whom (after 5 mins play) feels their heart sink after running into their double, I'll say come play Champions-Online where your only limitation is your imagination.

Posted: Sep 9th 2010 11:30PM (Unverified) said

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oh yeah cause champions is the best super hero mmo out there. from what i hear from both i would rather stick with cox
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Posted: Sep 9th 2010 10:51PM CCon99 said

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"Why offer tons of customization options for free at the beginning of the game like those other 2 Superhero games, when you can just sell those customization options to the morons via the Station Store for Station Cash!" -John Smedley

Posted: Sep 9th 2010 10:55PM CCon99 said

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Obviously the above quote was never stated by Smed, not publicly anyway. =P
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Posted: Sep 9th 2010 11:44PM Roscuro987 said

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This mmo is godly!!! Can't F'ing wait!!! :D

Posted: Sep 10th 2010 6:58AM Purkit said

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Limited character customisation. Maybe I can be talked around to the concept but right now I'm not feeling the love.

I can see how they justify starting off as a 'proto' hero without all your iconic stuff, but personally I don't fancy running around with a half finished character (visually) for most of the game. Yes its something to strive for, which I think is missing from other super hero MMOs but I'd prefer to design my characters look and be happy with it from the get go. I don't want to be thinking that he looks crappy because half the gear I need to make him look 'on concept' isn't available until I hit the end game. Also I can't think of any A-list super hero's who are motivated by gear drops.

Most super hero's have their costumes basically finished early in their carrier. I believe its because they need to look iconic from the get go, you can't keep changing your outfit because the public will not recognise you if you change outfits every few days.

"Hey its Doctor Fancy Pants!" shouts astonished onlooker.

"Doctor Fancy Pants doesn't wear pants like that, its an imposter!" shouts observant citizen.

"Kill the imposter!" Chants the angry mob.

No super hero wants to deal with an angry mob because they finally managed to get their 'fancy pants' after years of wearing just 'quite smart looking pants'.

Its not a deal breaker but I'm not in love with the concept of limited choice in character customisation. If I see even one piece of visual gear in an item shop I'll definitely be putting the game on my /ignore list, not because I hate item shops, but if I'm going to pay2play I don't expect to be gouged in an item shop as well. I'm looking at you Cryptic... and don't bother trying to justify yourself, you are already on my ignore list.

Posted: Sep 10th 2010 7:03AM Greyjoy said

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Disagreeing with the majority here, I actually prefer the idea of being able to get more costume pieces as you play through the game. It provides another hook to keep me playing, and was a major put off in CoX and CO, all I felt I was ever doing with levelling to just well level

Some of us are gear whores and like getting gear that changes how we look, and I don't think I am in the minority, if I was then the WoW game model must have it completely wrong....no wait..

Posted: Sep 10th 2010 7:06AM Greyjoy said

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One other thing one comment states "So, you'll have to wait until you're 3 years in to finally have ONE character looking the way you want it to."

I don't get why people who play MMO's state things like this, because the MMO genre is suppose to be one in which you invest time, the idea of getting everything done in 3 months is not only a failed Business Model from a financial perspective but also a failed gameplay model because people would have nothing left to do until you have the time to introduce more content, which obviously takes more time

Maybe I am wrong, but I like to invest time in MMO's, if I wanted a quick fix I would just go play a single player game

Posted: Sep 10th 2010 8:26AM Purkit said

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I don't think anyone is arguing that their characters should be finished in three months. Who in their right mind would want that?

Some people want to look like their character concept from the start, not because they don't want their characters to grow, but because they dont feel that visual appearance is something that they should need to strive for. You can argue that getting your visual look right should be a major focus on game play and a serious end game goal. Personally I can't think of anything more dull and uninspiring than running dungeons for a particular cape look so I can feel my character looks 'on concept'. Costume look is not a common origin story for most super heroes.

"Doctor Jonny Johansen was I mild mannered dentist until one day he decided he needed some new pants... and so he became Doctor Fancy Pants, always striving for the pants he once cuverted, never knowing if the next super villain would be the key to unlocking his ultimate destiny.... to acquire some nice 'fancy' looking pants".

Classic origin story.
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Posted: Sep 10th 2010 8:43AM Meagen said

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I suppose it's better for them and the genre overall if instead of duplicating existing games they try to make something with a different emphasis?

Posted: Sep 10th 2010 9:36AM Snichy said

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The lack of beta news could mean either hardly anyone is in beta meaning the developers are afraid of people finding out how bad it is, or it could mean those that are in beta think its so good, they dont want to break NDA and risk being thrown out :)

Posted: Sep 10th 2010 9:46AM Snichy said

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This was meant as a reply to Loopy Garou, above.

In regards to some comments here concerning the lack of customisation, one particular person saying you will have to wait years for a good look which is ridiculous, I quite like the idea of being a basic character at the start and gradually building up your look. Probably after only doing a few quests you will start to get options on how you look ,even without having to wear the gear as you have the option to choose the look but not the stats.

Call me a loot whore if you like, but one of the things I liked about WoW was that you had a pretty basic character at the start and built your way up, with the best look reserved for the highest levels who put the time and effort in. Makes me want to stay with the game and aspire to something. In CO I would get bored very quickly of my costume and want to change it all the time!
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