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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 6:16PM (Unverified) said

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Just started the game seems like fun already.

Posted: Sep 1st 2010 2:51AM EngadgetSoFunny said

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It is fun, till you reach level 20 and leave Tortage and find the game is largely unpolished everywhere else with huge gaps in leveling and quests during certain level ranges leaving you with the prospect of mob grinding or mob grinding while getting routinely ganked. Its gotten a lot better since release but its still shocking how wonderful Tortage was compared to everything after inc expansions.
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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 6:20PM Funkwell said

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looks like the folks over on the official forums are not too pleased with the 12v12 minigame being the only new pvp content. I think a lot of people were looking forward to a revamp of bori and cross server queues.

Posted: Aug 31st 2010 6:31PM Jef Reahard said

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I saw that, and it made me laugh a little bit. AoC has clearly been a PvE-centric game since Morrison took over (and since the big update last year that gave it some actual rpg stats and gear-dependency).

There's still a group of die-hard PvPers pining for the days of Godager though. AoC is developing into one of the more content-rich PvE games on the market. The only reason it doesn't have the depth and breadth of a WoW or an EQ2 is because it's barely two years old. If they keep this up it will get there, and the PvP will still be available, albeit in the background (where it is in most successful MMOs).
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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 8:15PM Ephe said

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The main issue PvPers have with Morrison is that he makes empty promises to them. 2.1 was supposed to be the long awaited PvP-update and all they get is a single minigame map. It's almost funny how sad it is. While I am PvE AoC player myself and strongly dislike gear-based PvP in MMOs, I can understand their frustration because they stayed loyal for so long and got a slap in the face from Morrison every time. All the major EU PvP guilds left or are rapidly losing numbers, and pointing and laughing at them doesn't really achieve much nor covers up the sorry state of PvP in the game.

On the PvE side - yes, the game had a short turn around. They did implement a lot of grind in the expansion, but they didn't do Aion's mistake of basing it solely on RNG, which is a good thing. However, more and more people are getting fed up with repeating the same instances and quests every day, and there are a lot of people leaving the game who are not angry PvPers. The first wave already went due to Funcom's slow response to exploiting and no punishment for players who actually did it. Meaning the honest and fair people were the ones who got punished for not exploiting since they're not decked out in expansion epics and can't compete with exploiters.

The game went from an alt-friendly paradise to a forced single character grindfest. None of the old players like that, only newbies do who played through Tortage and leap in Funcom's defense thinking the whole game is like that.

It's not. I was the same when I started :)
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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 8:20PM Jef Reahard said

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I agree Tomi. Khitai is getting to me a little bit. I'm looking forward to some adjustments that ease the faction and AA grind a little bit, as it's reminding me a bit too much of Aion's high levels at this point.

I've taken to playing my alts over the last week, as Khitai is just an exercise in frustration due to not being geared for the 6-mans (and also being an assassin that no one wants in a PUG, lol). Some adjustment is needed for sure.

PvP isn't my answer though, as it's just very repetitive from my point of view.
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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 6:21PM Dril said

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It's a pity: he gets so much hate from the titanic wankers on the EU forums and yet he basically turned this game around.

I really do wish people weren't such idiots :/

Posted: Sep 1st 2010 6:17AM Fabius Bile said

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without craig the game would probably be dead atm, thats undeniable. Still he put all the eggs in one basket (PvE) and wasnt upfront honest with the PvP community.
In his letters and forum posts there is always some exciting new features and changes for PvP just around the corner...well,people have been waiting for them for well over 2 years. nothing.

Its simply mindnumbing the sheer amount of PvE content released this 2 years when compared to the amount of PvP content. The proportion has been kept 100:1 since Craig become GD.


and anyway his strategy is wrong and faulty at large anyway, going for a PvE focus is competing with the king of the industry, and AoC will never, ever out-WoW WoW.
Thats why, while AoC is still afloat and (presumably) generates profit, the game just hit an all time low even shortly avingfter ha 1 expansion.

People that like PvEing does that in WoW, its case by case better all-around. And a game that once was marketed as a brutal exciting and innovating PvP game has seen the PvP community shrink to almost null.

Im not advocating for a total PvP shift, but a game that is hurting for subs as much as AoC shouldnt put all the eggs in one basket, and try to please both sides instead or even favour PvP a bit, specially at this point in time when people have enough PvE content that even the most hardcore players will have a hard time finishing it within the year.

Sadly CM thinks otherwise...
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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 6:34PM ZoneOuT said

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you know Ive been getting a urge to try again AoC for the 3rd time.. I miss my tank. I really want to see whats new with the expansion though I wish they would focus more on PVP content seems like they've been only concerned with PVE since day one.

Posted: Sep 1st 2010 2:55AM EngadgetSoFunny said

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Well said Tomi. I couldn't agree more.

Especially that last paragraph about Tortage. So many people I think play Tortage, show their friends, defend AoC to the death and convince their family/friends to buy AoC right there. Only to be apologizing to their family/friends 2 weeks later when they have left Tortage and start to feel the 'real' AoC set in by which time they are unsure if they want to keep putting 15 dollars a month into the game.

Posted: Sep 1st 2010 5:52AM Shadanwolf said

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And that mess called "Crafting".....continues to be completely ignored.

Posted: Sep 1st 2010 10:12AM spartanthetriviumorg said

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I agree with the general opinion in the comments.

AoC at it current rate of improvement since the new King, if it continues, will make it the best PvE MMO on the market by the time the second x-pack is released.

With that said, I still have issues with the PvP and wont even do it anymore and I'm frustrated with the new raids and crafting is a big ol' pain but the game play is top notch and at the end of the day that is what matters most to me. The stuff I have issues with are extras in my opinion and not the primary reason why I play.

Posted: Sep 1st 2010 1:41PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not sure why people say there isn't anything to do after Tortage. There are missions all the way up to end game. This game is excellent for PvE. Well, until endgame anyway. Once you reach top level, it is just raids or Khitai grindfest. I think it is still an altitis's dream. I think of AoC as an adult's version of WoW. Combo combat system with fatalities, realistic graphics and terrific animation. Easy to play and fun to get into the lore of Conan.

Obviously, it's not perfect, but I have really enjoyed the game. The only pvp I enjoy is fps. MMO's pvp just doesn't do it for me, so I rarely participate in it.

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