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Posted: Aug 28th 2010 5:23PM (Unverified) said

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Yo dawg, I heard you like pay-to-play, so we put a subscription on your subscription, so you can pay while you pay.

Posted: Aug 28th 2010 7:08PM Joshua Przygocki said

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Thanks for making my day.
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Posted: Aug 28th 2010 9:12PM Feydakin said

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^ ^ lol, yeah what that guys said ^ ^

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Posted: Aug 29th 2010 12:18AM (Unverified) said

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Awesome
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Posted: Aug 29th 2010 6:25PM Deadalon said

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So... there are gonna be 3 packs .... each costing like 25-40 USD.. All put together offering alot less than an expansion back in terms of content and real progressing your character (no new real levels and no new areas in terms of the 4 cities missing). Really - its called mikiling it. WAR just isn't good enough title to even get ppl to think about playing a full time subs and then buying "packs" like its some kind of DLC. Heres the news BIoware... DLC needs CONTENT - These packs are not offering anything in terms of content... just RR ranks.. items(probably most of them with extra price for looks)... and maybe one extra map... and for that.... you have to pay 50-70 USD by the looks of it.

Yea - dream on.

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Posted: Aug 28th 2010 8:37PM SkuzBukit said

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A microtransaction model would be very difficult to put in for this game as it stands because there is just so little content to it, however I think it would make the game more viable if it was successfully pulled off.

Posted: Aug 29th 2010 6:09PM Deadalon said

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Erm... War is PERFECT title for Micro junk. 80 levels of pointless RVR ... already up to 400% gain now ingame...
New appearance feature - make all the items with stats look crap and sell the cool stuff in Ingame store.

War is so far the ONLY Sub based MMO game that could throw itemshop and do very little to the basics of the game. The problem is... they dont even have the coders to do that... So... instead they talk alot but say nothing... and do even less. Thats what WAR has been all about for the past 2 years.

The truth is that they are not gonna spend the money nor development team to really push this title forward. So... the less they actually say about they future... the better... and thats exactly what they are doing.

I dare you all to plz look at the agains all odds video and see how bad it really is... Kerry is getting better and better at acting and saying nothing - and after all - thats all she gets payed for anyway.
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Posted: Aug 28th 2010 9:11PM Feydakin said

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I don't really care what happens with this game either way. I wouldn't pay the monthly fee regardless, but here's where I stand in general: If I pay a box price and the industry standard $15 monthly fee to play an MMOG, I absolutely will not pay extra money for "content" like what would be in these "RvR Packs". Silly little pets, mounts, flair, extra little things are fine for a standard subscription based MMOG, but not what I would consider actual content. That should come with the monthly fee unless it's a full blown expansion pack. I feel like a lot of the people that play MMOGs have a similar mindset to myself with regard to this issue, and I don't think that you are going to convince people otherwise...

Posted: Aug 28th 2010 10:48PM Greg W said

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I was never trying to convince anyone of anything.
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Posted: Aug 28th 2010 11:35PM Feydakin said

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I didn't mean to imply that you were... by "you" I mean developers/producers in general trying to sell this sort of revenue model.
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Posted: Aug 28th 2010 11:50PM drakon said

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What Feydakin said...

In my book, an MMO is one (and ONLY one) of the following:

a.) P2P - Original box price plus monthly subscription.

b.) F2P - Free with item shop purchases that only enhance gameplay.

c.) Freemium - Free but need to purchase high level content in the form of an cash shop or DLC.

As soon as you combine multiple elements above, you've lost me as a player. If I'm paying $15/month to subscribe to a game, the minute to add a cash shop I'm gone (ala sparkle ponies or WAR's new DLC)
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Posted: Aug 28th 2010 11:28PM (Unverified) said

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I say wait and see. Because Mythic has a lot of work to do. I am really let down on last weekend stunt. But i still play the game and probadly buy the micro expansions. Oh well i guess only time will tell for what going to happend.

Posted: Aug 29th 2010 12:23AM PrimeSynergy said

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I noticed a few people bringing up the WoW pony and all I can say is I still don't understand what's the big deal about that thing? If memory serves right, you didn't even need the darn thing. It was just something cool Blizzard was offering for real money. You don't need it in game so why give it away for free?

If I'm remembering it correctly, you couldn't even use the thing without having a riding skill and even with that it only went as fast as your highest skill. It didn't enhance gameplay. It doesn't provide an advantage to anyone. At most, it was a skin.

This thing with Mythic however is a whole different ballgame. It has me worried, but we'll just have to wait and see how it turns out. I tried the trial out today and I liked it and all, but I couldn't really hit the 'subscribe' button with all the speculation surrounding this game.

Posted: Aug 29th 2010 2:18AM drakon said

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The issue (for me anyways) is that I HAVE to spend money on it if I want to have it. I can't earn it, or find it, or buy it on the AH. I would have to pay Blizzard $25 to own it, on top of already paying them a monthly subscription. If the game was F2P then I'd have no problem with it. But to me its just a company getting greedy and screwing less wealthy players don't want to spend $25 on a virtual sparkle pony on TOP of the monthly fee.

(Note: I don't play WoW, that was hypothetical)
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Posted: Aug 29th 2010 2:15AM (Unverified) said

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I guess we wait and see.

If WAR was in better Shape, I wouldn't doubt the paid packs but given it's current state, I would think that wouldn't be a very good route to take. It could ultimately drive off more then it brings in.

As far as Skaven being playable by both sides...personally I don't like that idea. It doesn't fit the lore at all. Not a RvR army scale anyway, many Warhammer based stories do have humans collaborating with them but not on an Army level.

Have they said the Skaven were the only race they are adding? I swear I read they were adding two only the Skaven were relieved...?

I do the free T1 every now and then, WAR is great fun for a fantasy PvP / RvR romp but until they do something about that limited, dead end, endgame, I doubt I would resub. Tacking on more levels and adding more races is hardly a solution to anything. The world needs to be restructured to an open environment rather then for lineage tiers, half of which are empty because the majority of players are either freeie T1's or level cap T4's.

Posted: Aug 29th 2010 7:05AM (Unverified) said

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I noticed the article said Skaven might be like the LOTRO Monster Play, but then that didn't make sense for it being playable by both sides.

What would be more accurate is to say it is like LOTRO Session Play, where for a time you can play as a character other than your own within set parameters.
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Posted: Aug 29th 2010 10:22AM Spyder2k5 said

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First off, you are wrong and all you stated is pure speculation.WAR is stable, and recovering. Not by leaps and bound but it is recovering.

Every complaint that has been lodged has been and continues to be looked into, with most of them being fixed as of the 1.3.6 patch.

Yes t1, and t4 are the most active, but if you were to play on Badlands which is the most populated server above all other including EU servers, then you would see that t2, and t3 have PLENTY of people in them. I never have issues with SC pop, or finding a WB for oRvR.

It is increasingly obvious most player or people complaining have not played since launch, or have not played in an extended period of time, or even got past t1.

I implore anyone and everyone who has not played in 6+ months to please come and try it again, there is no better PvP(RvR) experience to be had, and it only gets better and better. Population is up twice from what it was last year at this time according to my own ingame Census scans(this does not include hidden characters that use Anonymous.)
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Posted: Aug 29th 2010 11:26AM (Unverified) said

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Rioch, I don't want to argue too much with you because I basically like WAR, always have. I've played a couple of toons to 40/40 and it's always been pretty fun.

However without getting to into it, your saying I am speculating goes right back too your analysis. :) IMHO, the crash of 40+ servers down to 4 in both the US and EU market and the lack of need to increase holds up my side pretty well :P

All I am saying is charging for these RvR packs might not be a good idea because you tempt more flies with honey. In todays MMO market, that should be painfully obvious. MMO pricing and business structure is much different from single player RPG's which command a much better pricing model because frankly, they are better RPG's then mmoRPG's.

The only other thing about the RvR pack is the POSSIBILITY of Skaven being played on both ends. That just does not hold up in the lore at all, even one tiny bit.

Again the main issue people seem to have with this game (from my perspective) is the partitioning up of the game world into 4 separated, level exclusive areas. This leaves a very small and limited "end" or top tier and with a game population that we can safely say, "isn't significantly growing" makes expanding on it rather difficult.

The feeling of "repetition" will continue to be this games number one issue. It's built like a persistent shooter as a series of "maps" instead of a persistent RPG world.
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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 6:07PM (Unverified) said

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Mythic already said theyre completely revamping T2-4.

To qoute andy "We're changing T4 to be something different than "OMGKILLMOARDOORS"

Im hoping for destructable walls, but let the speculation commence
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