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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 12:35PM DevilSei said

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So uh... he admits to raping and killing the girl, then pleads not guilty...? You know, besides the painfully obvious fact of the dna test existing, that isn't exactly the smartest thing to do...

Feel bad for the lawyer stuck trying to defend this guy...

Posted: Aug 26th 2010 12:47PM Seare said

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They may try the insanity defense.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 1:27PM i2hellfire said

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*killing, THEN raping...
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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 10:28PM Natsumi said

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@veil

yup, sicko.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 12:36PM Controlled Chaos said

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They always have to bring gaming into it.

Let the guy cook, I figure.

Posted: Aug 26th 2010 2:12PM Monkey D Luffy said

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@bobfish. Really? I remember reading about some idiot in England playing a game then going on a rampage with a Katana, or a man in China or some Asian country shooting a taxi driver in the face because he wanted to see if it was like GTA.

The world is filled with stupid people.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 3:21PM suicideking89 said

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@ bobfish

Your idiotic comment was rendered even more idiotic by the inclusion of a smiley face.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 3:52PM toychristopher said

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I really don't see what gaming has to do with it at all. You don't see headlines like "Boy murders girl then drinks at a bar," or "Husband murders wife then watches tv to forget."
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 5:44PM Its Utakata stupid said

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First bobfish, "Let the guy cook" is not unique to America, but also practised in Iran, China and a few other countries who crime and punishment mechanics are stuck in the Dark Ages.

And second, as pointed by Joker...that psycho nuts going psycho nuts is also not unique to America either. But also practised by the unhing'd in the UK, Germany, China, etc.

So you're horribley wrong in both accounts.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 12:39PM Phone Guy said

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This is a sad story. Really though they need to focus on the facts. A 18 year killed and raped a teenage girl. What happens after that has no bearing on the case. I'm sure if you talk to a line of murders they will tell you they wrapped themselves up in something after wards to try and forget what they have done. This could be excess consumption of alchole, drug abuse, TV, Music, ect. When a person feels some remorse for thier acts part of them wants to let go of what happened. In this case he used a game.

But watch them ignore the facts and try to blame his behavior on DDO. If this was 198X, they would be trying to make the connection between the slaying and Dungeons & Dragon or Heavy Metal Music. At least the defense attorney isn't trying to deflect blame to gaming.

Posted: Aug 26th 2010 2:55PM Saker said

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Absolutely true, you're exactly correct. In the 80's there were those trying to convince people satanists were behind every tree, and heavy metal music was some kind of gateway-drug to it, all kinds of insanity being spewed by the mad fear-mongers. Unfortunately that kind of simply minded blame (and fear) mongering is very alive and well! This individual is obviously mentally un-well, period, why he is so is the question, but no computer game is responsible (and being "born-again" isn't going to cure it. Though some of the same people who are going to say the games, and the occult and satanic worship they believe it inspires are responsible will try and say that the games directly influenced him to this.). This kind of simple-minded blame mongering goes back to the old arcade games before computer games, older people on this site can remember when it was those wicked fighting games that were somehow responsible for all the evils and violence in society... People don't want to really think about the real evils of society, the real sources of the mental illnesses, the violence, etc. The poverty, the lack of education opportunities, lack of hope, way violence is depicted, these things create a nihilism that can lead to these tradgedies.
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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 10:27PM Natsumi said

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Actually, back in the 80's they thought that gaming (in the way we mean it today, just without a computer) made you murder people and/or commit suicide.

http://video.yume.vn/video-clip/60-minutes-on-dungeons-dragons-1985-part-1.tuhai82.35A9AF1B.html
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 12:46PM RMM said

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Stories like this make me wish medieval-style torture was an option for these criminals.

Posted: Aug 26th 2010 1:50PM (Unverified) said

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And torturing people makes you better than the criminal exactly HOW?
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 2:16PM PaterFrog said

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You know, torturing a murder isn't in any way better than torturing innocent children.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 5:50PM Its Utakata stupid said

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I like to figure out that he actually did it first before applying anything to him in the "name of justice."

And let's hope that dudemanjac does not run for any public office in the meantime. :(
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 6:02PM dudemanjac said

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Well of course figure it out. I didn't think that needed to be included. And let's hope someone as progressive as me does get in some day. As long as you're not out raping and killing, you have nothing to worry about on my planet.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 7:48PM Its Utakata stupid said

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Um...no thankyou, dudemanjac. Raping and kiling the rapers and killers is still raping and killing. You just shifted it from the perps to the state...but actually haven't solved anything.

Furthermore, the justice system should be about mediating out justice not revenge. Anything less than that becomes fascism (read: a state that rapes and kills). And I much prefer to live in a democracy, instead...even if we have to deal with the occasional unhing'd citizen. Just saying...
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Posted: Aug 26th 2010 9:32PM dudemanjac said

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We don't know that it won't solve anything. It's never been tried. Our current system doesn't seem to be getting much done. And it's not revenge. It's punishment. But hey, no one said we have to agree. Your opinions will still be allowed when I'm running things. They'll even be encouraged. Laughed at, but still encouraged.

Would it be okay if we just executed him and left out the raping part? I'll even bend a little and give him a nice humane death like we would give man's best friend or another valued furry member of the family.
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Posted: Aug 27th 2010 12:18AM Daelda said

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@dudemanjac - Actually, it *has* been tried. Saudi Arabia (and a few other Islamic countries I believe) have laws that allow victims to demand that criminals receive the same injuries that they did.

A group of men cut off one woman's nose, and she could have demanded that their noses be removed. One man was blinded and I believe that he asked that the perpetrator have his eye plucked out. And I *know* that there has recently been a case where a man was paralyzed from a knife wound to the spine - the victim is asking for retribution and the courts have found ONE hospital willing to go in surgically and sever the nerves as to paralyze the perpetrator in a similar manner.

So yes, it *has* been tried. In fact, it is going on right now. So...Saudi Arabia has your ideal justice system?
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