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Posted: Aug 15th 2010 6:19PM archipelagos said

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Nice to hear about the positive side to EvE for a change.

Posted: Aug 17th 2010 2:31AM remover said

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what's not positive about all the other articles?

pirates and scammers and so forth are playing a game and having fun, the freedom to do so IS one of the positives in Eve.
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Posted: Aug 15th 2010 7:24PM (Unverified) said

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Cat 'O' Ninetails isn't a hero per say, but he is pretty cool. And you forgot to mention the whole deal the someone sold Chribba a stolen Something Issue Raven, then Chribba gave it back to its owner? THat was way before my time but should be worse mentioning. Other then that, EVE doesn't have many heroes but lots of forum whoring celebrities (Good ones, such as Akita T (Never beaten in an industrial arguement as far as I remember), Cat O Ninetails, and theres more that arn't good as much a widely known and respected).

That said, can we make this a WIDOT thread?

Posted: Aug 15th 2010 7:35PM (Unverified) said

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Almost forgot, Halada and that dude who wrote the wormhole guide. Among the two best things ever written for eve.
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Posted: Aug 15th 2010 7:46PM Brendan Drain said

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That wasn't Chribba who gave the stolen State Issue Raven back to the original owner. It was F900, another player who runs a third party service. Chribba has never gone back on a deal or done anything disreputable, which is why he's still the number one trusted third party in EVE. If anyone's going to use a third party service, it's important that they research the player's background to ensure they're trustworthy.
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Posted: Aug 15th 2010 7:35PM Dblade said

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That's a pretty fail list, considering 2/3 of the "heroism" on it is done out of game, or done because EVE's tutorial is crap. Truth of EVE is that it's really just a game where small and large clans of people perpetually feud, with little else. Not many opportunities for heroism in that.

The only one I can think of is Red Frog Freight, which is a corp trying to be a courier corp despite the game mechanics being busted to the point of silliness against couriers, and couriers risking way more than any PvPer.

Posted: Aug 15th 2010 7:47PM Brendan Drain said

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Only the tool programmers provide largely out-of-game community support. Both third party services (such as Chribba's) and EVE University are directly involved in the game and are making a significant difference on a daily basis.
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Posted: Aug 15th 2010 11:08PM Dblade said

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Yeah, because everyone who looks at EVE says "I want to run an escrow service!" or "I want to train noobies!" and thinks thats heroic sandbox gameplay. And honestly, E-Uni doesn't do crap: you get a better experience and more knowledge just joining a militia or another corporation's starter corp.

Face it, the game isn't conducive to heroism. Considering one of the recent wardecs is the Goons deccing EVE cemetary of all things, it caters to a lot of yarrbears-PvPers who talk a lot about risk, but who carebear as much as possible. And considering your recent "personality" columns were on an organizer of ganking mining barges and an ex-pirate, well.
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Posted: Aug 16th 2010 1:12AM Joshua Przygocki said

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Were you the pilot of that Kestrel who lost 74 plexes?
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Posted: Aug 16th 2010 3:33AM Dblade said

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Nope, I'm not that stupid. I just think it's funny that people can easily pick 5 or more scams, ganks, or other underhanded tricks, yet struggle listing 5 instances of heroism that shaped EVE.
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Posted: Aug 15th 2010 9:14PM benfolds said

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Halada's mining guide, which also includes a look at manufacturing and blue print copying, is outstanding. He is definitely one of the good guys in the game. I have been fortunate enough to hook up with some very outstanding people in the game. And that will really define your experience in EVE.

Posted: Aug 16th 2010 7:53AM (Unverified) said

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And don't forget Estel Erador- his jump clone service is outstanding (and free!).
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Posted: Aug 16th 2010 4:13AM Psychotic Storm said

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That's a list of neutrals in my opinion.

Posted: Aug 16th 2010 6:33AM Kronossan said

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These people are awesome indeed but before I clicked the read more button I kind of already knew who was going to be on here.

This is a very shallow article that only mentions the best known few and even leaves out a couple of very important ones like Halada for example.
Make an article on less known people and corporations who're doing just as much as these people if not more and who could really use the publicity to do even more awesome stuff.

There are more training corporations then just E-Uni, and most of these do a lot more then E-Uni does too.

Posted: Aug 16th 2010 9:04AM (Unverified) said

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posting in a WIdot thread...

Good people aren't hard to find in Eve. You just have to realize you can't trust any bozo with your life/isk.

You wouldn't walk down a dark alley with someone you just met or buy electronics out of an unmarked van in real life - why should it be any different in Eve?

Posted: Aug 16th 2010 12:58PM (Unverified) said

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Hey Brendan u forgot Wollari from eve maps, the dude that makes the influence maps, the one that gives free jump clones Esther Arador i believe, etc.

Also Poasting in a WIDOT thread...

Posted: Aug 16th 2010 11:28AM (Unverified) said

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Can't forget about Estel Erador and free JCs. He must put in some work keeping that corp running for so many years.

Posted: Aug 16th 2010 12:29PM Mynxee said

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I might rather have seen the actual players behind the concept/vison and ongoing management of EVE University mentioned than the entity itself, as it is the people and not the organizational structures they create who are the heroes.

As for third-party tool heroes, let's not forget Ix Forres who is responsible for EVE-Metrics (http://www.eve-metrics.com) which provides extremely useful oog market information.

Posted: Aug 16th 2010 12:48PM (Unverified) said

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I agree, Estel Arador really should have been included in this list, not only for his amazing jump clone service but also his general contribution to the eve community on the forums. Also, the Amamake Defense Force (which is perhaps no longer in service) is worth a mention for their non-violent mission to bring order to one of the most unruly low-sec systems.

Posted: Aug 16th 2010 2:47PM wcdregon said

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you know what, I don't care about heroes or villians. What i do care about is passion and since I joined Massively as a regular reader a few months ago. Its obvious to me that the most passionate MMO community i've ever seen is EvE. WoW has 11million players and there aren't any that I know of that have the same level of passion for the preservation of their favorite pastime like eve gamers. I still haven't tried EvE and because of its age and difficult learning curve i'm still going to stay away but I sincerely hope that they make an eve2 that incorporates many of the things that players have developed themselves with the tools allowed by CCP.

Its very rare for me to be "in the know" when it comes to games that I don't play, but eve's community is so captivating and passionate it almost sucks you in. The developers actually meet the community's appointed reps, what? they actually listen, (sometimes) ruserious? This sounds like so much more than just a game, its real. with honest and good people protecting the weaker people as well as (so called) bad people making a living out of creating misery. Sounds a lot like real life to me, and thats what so captivating about EvE to me, as an outsider. Everytime I read something about this game, it reminds me of real life.

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