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Posted: Aug 11th 2010 8:23AM Haldurson said

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I hate drama but I have to admit one incident with some embarrassment -- my eyesight is deteriorating, even with glasses. I remember one evening in Lotro when I died and had to catch up with the group through some very dark tunnels in some Moria instance, and I had a kind of hissy fit/panic attack because I got completely lost and could not see anything on my screen. (I am prone to anxiety when under stress). Fortunately I was with friends and not strangers.

I'm 50 years old, and I stopped caring much about loot about 30 years ago. It's something called 'maturity'.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 8:37AM J Brad Hicks said

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One of the last straws, for me, in Warhammer Online was when I caught one of the leaders of my guild flagrantly cheating in a keep siege. I decided to give him one chance before reporting him: I pointed out to him that the GMs had ruled what he was doing an exploit, and told him if I caught him doing it again, I'd report him. He LOLed and told me "everybody does it." So I brought it up with the guild leader, who took the exploiter's side, and said that yes, I was the only high-level character in our guild that wasn't using some exploit or another in PvP, I needed to grow up and understand how the game was played.

I'll be brutally honest: my reaction was exactly the kind of "hissy fit" you're asking for. I went completely ballistic. (Which, come to think of it, is a pun, since I was a squig herder, but if you don't get it, never mind.) I ranted, I raved, I made a big deal out of it on our private forums, on our semi-private Ventrillo server, in guild chat, and finally in private chat with the leaders of the other two guilds in our alliance. Pretty much everybody told me to sit down and shut up, to either learn to cheat like the real players do, or to at least quit complaining about it.

I ended up quitting that guild and reporting every single one of them that I'd seen cheating myself (and they were right when they predicted that nothing would be done about it). Then I ended up starting over on the other side on a different server, but they were very nearly right when they said "everybody does it:" on every server and on both sides, at least one in six players that I saw above level 15 or so was cheating in every PvP match, and maybe as many as one in four above level 20. So I took my hissy fit one step further and quit the whole game.

I suppose I'm supposed to be ashamed of how emotionally and dramatically I dealt with this, but I want you to understand: /I loved that game, and I didn't want to quit it./ But associating with cheaters is a bright line I won't cross. I am too afraid of getting punished for other people's misdeeds, and I'm too proud to have other people assuming I'm a cheater just because I'm in a cheater-haven guild. I threw that fit because I was hoping to shame them into being the kind of guild I needed them, or at least one other guild in our alliance, into being the kind of people I needed alongside me if I was going to be able to stay in a game that I loved and desperately wanted to stay with. Emotionally, the stakes for me were very, very high, and were made worse by how dismissively my concerns were being treated.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 10:19AM (Unverified) said

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Not being able to find "that group" of players that fit my personality and play style is why I haven't stuck with an MMO for more than 3 months for the last 3-4 years.

When I sit back and think of it I'm astonished that developers haven't put the equation together that forming strong social bonds keeps people playing. In some situations this keeps players subscribed more so than content as they become as addicted to their relationships as they are to their quest to achieve a goal for their character.

Here's hoping that Blizzard does something innovative with Battle.net for their next gen MMO.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2010 4:29PM (Unverified) said

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You should be angry at the Warhammer people not your guildies. If a company doesnt enforce its rules and lets people exploit then anyone who wants to play has to exploit also or be at an unfair disadvantage. Its a keeping up with the jones thing.

I went through this in the early days of UO with macroing, origin wouldnt do anything about it, so eventually after getting sick of being the only one without a stable of maxed out alts it wasnt long before I was macroing up a storm. So the moral of both our stories is if you cant beat em join em, or quit and whine a lot, either way.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2010 8:40AM Platypus Man said

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I've spent 90% of my MMORPG playing career with roleplayers, so... yeah. Unintended drama kind of comes with the territory. When it works, it's a chocolate-covered dream. When it doesn't, it's a fiery bag of turds.

I've lost it once or twice, but that's only when someone's in-game toolery begins to lessen the enjoyment of the whole group or guild. One of the cardinal sins of roleplaying is for a player to dictate a another player's reaction --- for example, emoting something like " [Player 1] punches [Player 2] in the funbag, causing [Player 2] to curl up like a pork rind," -- which has then made Player 2's choice for him. It's an extreme example, but one roleplayer acting like a primadonna and hogging the spotlight can put a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

It's an honest beginner mistake, and easily remedied.. but coupled with other sorts of Bad Roleplayer Attitude (passive-aggressive nonsense, metagaming, Mary Sue-ness, etc. etc.) it can be tough to take.

Otherwise, I'm the most laid-back gamer I know. I don't get aggravated at a group wipe, as they are usually the funniest things ever. I'm not a loot-whore, so unless someone is blatantly being a grabby douche, I don't get riled up about that, either.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 8:51AM pcgneurotic said

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Playing Wurm, I once became convinced that two passing dudes had ripped me off - stealing most of my food supplies, lots of hard-earned buckets of dye, ropes, all kinds of stuff. I spent days bad-mouthing them bitterly in general chat until one day they appeared in chat and, surprised, challenged my accusations. After much careful, diplomatic discussion for all the world to see and enjoy, we resolved the issue ammicably and moved on.

It was embarrassing for me, because I hate confrontation and because I'd been mouthing off about it for ages. But for my part, I admitted my childishness and later several players complimented me on my mature handling of the situation. I think if more people just 'fessed up when they're caught being stupid or childish in a game, there'd be less hard feelings later on.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 9:28AM Nickelpat said

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I haven't really thrown a hussy fit. My worst is usually a little "Frakking ret pally ninja'd my tanking shield." on a vent server full of friends. I guess is when I got a Brutix blown up really unexpectedly because I forgot to turn on my defense. My Corp TS server when from dead silent to "S$&t, S@?t, S!$t, f&@&ing piece of. Gah." but I logged off right when that happened so I didn't cuss out the TS server too badly.

But for a true to life drama causing fit? Not yet.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 10:29AM JohnD212 said

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One incident comes to mind. Was working my way through a instance in WOW and we had just spent about an hour grinding through and suddenly my computer froze up. I had no way to get back in and never tried again. Such a waste of time.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 9:12AM (Unverified) said

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Aion, when I failed my Mira pants quest for the 5th time.

Nuff said.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 9:20AM Faryon said

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Hmm, I think the only time I have actually gotten really mad at someone was back in vanilla WoW. I had recently joined a hardcore guild (BIG mistake) and was in my first or second Molten Core raid. I was one of 3 warlocks in the raid when the Tier 1 gloves dropped. One of the other locks had tier 2 and the other one had some gloves he considered to be better so he wanted me to have the tier 1 gloves since I obviously needed them.. BUT then the guildleader and warlock classleader started yelling at both him and me on vent because they appearantly considered me too much of a noob for the gloves and they said some quite nasty things to the other lock for passing up on tier gear... I lost my temper, asked them both to shut up, give me the gloves and stop meddling in other peoples playstyle. I was backed up by the other lock and I eventually got the gloves, but I have a feeling that the GL and lock CL developed a strong hate for both me and the other lock that day.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 9:25AM (Unverified) said

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I honestly miss guild drama. I love sitting on the sidelines watching it happen since Im not the kind of player that is ever the focus of it.

I lose my cool in PvP. I broke a lot of furniture playing a shaman during TBC. One bookshelf...a futon...a desk...a keyboard...a lamp.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 10:02AM (Unverified) said

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I've broken a keyboard once when I got mad in PVP one time. Just gave it a good smack and the keys came flying off. I was a warrior back in classic and for the life of me couldnt' get near anyone. I'd always be laying face down in the dirt and camped for quite some time.

I recall one instance of drama I stirred up was over some tanking sword back in Naxx that I wanted. Some other than who was rarely ever at raids ended up getting it despite I never missed a raid. Was quite irked and caused a little bit of a fuss. But ah well, things happen and the sword came the next week. ^^

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 10:06AM (Unverified) said

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I mean, other tank. Other than, lol.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 10:03AM Jade Effect said

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When I was playing Atlantica Online, a new guild member joined one day. The new guy was an utter ass who would put everyone else down as noobs, and would complain loudly whenever the random number generator assign loot to another guild member in the group, accusing them of somehow "stealing" the loot. He would then run off on his own in guild dungeons, get attacked by a bunch of mobs, cry for help, and then accuse the rescuers for "stealing" his loot.

I soon lost patience with that new guy and told him to stuff his nonsense. Sensing the other established members were growing impatient with him as well, I talked to the guild leader to get rid of him, but the guild leader refused to deal with it. Soon, important guild members began leaving, rather than deal with his whining and nonsense. It was a sad episode of how the unwillingness of the guild officers in handling the drama and nipping it in the bud caused the guild to break up.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 10:30AM Its Utakata stupid said

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I try to avoid drama where all possilbe. And take my grievances up with those who offended me or my confidnets privately...

...however, I do feel that every MMO who forces you to work with groups (or guilds) of varying qualities should come with a public intercom, beer trolley and an emergency slide to be deployed when ever the player has had enough with the group (or guild) that turned out to be wanting'ly dysfunctional. Just saying...

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 10:33AM Its Utakata stupid said

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*confidents...
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Posted: Aug 11th 2010 10:37AM Joshua Przygocki said

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Wow... I can't stand eWhores®, and people who fall for them like that are just stupid...

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 10:45AM Joshua Przygocki said

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Umm well the most recent one for me is just a two-way swearfest between me and my buddy during some SC2 matches, not at each other just at the enemy team and our random team. (When one of us has the highest overall score for the entire game and the rest of the team is in 6th 7th and 8th that makes ya wonder what it would be like with a new one...)

Other than the occasional outburst I tend to stay outta stuff like that, never really been in raiding guilds or anything so I usually miss a lot of the drama.

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 11:33AM (Unverified) said

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Wall of text inc!

Played Lineage 2, this guy signed on and started swearing in guild chat that everyone F-ing sucked, etc. I was very calm and told everyone he was probably hacked. Then he turned and said some very nasty things to me using my real name (aka not hacked). I then told him if I had the power I would boot him so we didn't have to listen to his stupid outburst. Later, his wife (ewhore) signed on and FREAKED OUT when people asked her what happened. She signed off immediately saying she isn't her husband and can't know what he's thinking.

The next day I signed on and was asked to join her and her husband along with the guild leader in teamspeak. The guild leader asked if I wanted to apologize.... I was shocked, I was actually thinking they were going to apologize to me! The wife said I had taunted her husand by teasing him about his PTSD (didn't know he had it), and saying that he was an unemployed loser. I was pretty upset, but knew it wasn't true. She kept saying she had screenshots. I told her to please send them to the leader and me because I'd like to see them. She then booted me from teamspeak while I was saying that. I WAS FURIOUS. I went in the guild chat and tore into her. She told me to not bring it to guild chat, I told her to not f-ing kick me from the private chat we had on teamspeak. I totally lost it, my face was red, my heart was beating. I was swearing at her. Telling her no one even liked her because she can't play and then complains she can't get a group.

Annyway, she ended up being all dramatic when she couldn't provide SS and people sided with me and saying what they saw in guild chat when her husband was swearing. She said she was going to leave because I had said no one wanted her there (I had people PM me saying good job lol). She said she trashed all her gear, and I told her "Don't let the door hit your a** on the way out b**ch." She would later sign on as a mutual friends account and whisper me saying some nasty things.

Later she was let BACK in the guild, and the deal was she would only be let back in if she resolved the problems she made with other guilds (she basically tried to get us involved in a huge war between guilds).

The guild leader did it FOR her, and I was pissed. I told him he can't fix everything for her just because she flirts with him. She then whispered me and said she has the rights to boot me fyi. See above when I said something similar to her husband. Needless to say I no longer had fun playing and left the game never to return!

Posted: Aug 11th 2010 11:44AM mszv said

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Why I mostly solo, though my Guild and Alliance in Guild Wars is awesome!

I'm looking forward to the GW2 dynamic events. Maybe you will be able to play with people -- with less drama.

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