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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 12:23PM (Unverified) said

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TigerDirect, lol.

Posted: Aug 8th 2010 1:11PM (Unverified) said

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Lol indeed.

I've spent easily more than $7,000 at Newegg over nearly a decade and have only every had positive experiences with their customer service. (and I don't work there/know anyone who works there/have any financial interest in them)

If you're going to bash Newegg in a public, psuedo-journalistic forum, maybe you should provide more information? Or just write an article about it? It seems personal, petty, and unprofessional.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 1:24PM Jef Reahard said

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@Hallgrim: Yeah, I'll write an article about NewEgg customer service on Massively.

I'm glad you find them easy to do business with; I did not. As that fact was relevant but slightly tangential to the article about building a PC, I didn't feel the need to devote any more space to it than I did. Label me however you want, though. If a throw-away line gets the fanboys up in arms that much, allow me to add my own lol to the refrain.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 2:07PM (Unverified) said

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Labeling me a fanboy also seems petty, personal, and unprofessional. Can't you tell the difference between criticizing a particular aspect of your article ("Your unsubstantiated comments about a particular retailer seem petty and unprofessional") and labeling you as something ("You disagree with me and therefor must be a fanboy")?

You sure told me off! Good thing I won't be around to, uh... read the articles that you write?
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 3:13PM Jef Reahard said

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@Tempes: I think you misunderstood, I didn't read anything. TigerDirect sent me the parts I paid for on time, and NewEgg didn't. It's pretty black and white.

The reality is that anyone at any time can get someone incompetent on the receiving end of an internet order. It's the nature of the beast as these warehouse companies hire the least knowledgeable people that they can get away with. The roles could easily be reversed and I could've written a throw-away line about how TigerDirect sucks instead of NewEgg.

NewEgg is a few dollars cheaper. In my case though, clearly, you get what you pay for. I'd still be waiting on my parts if I'd chosen to complete the NewEgg order, as opposed to having three days of gaming already under my belt.

Anyway, I'm done with this particular debate, it isn't the focus of the piece at all.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 3:22PM Jef Reahard said

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@Hallgrim: I'll miss you?
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 12:26PM Verus said

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For any high performance pc such as that it should include a ssd. It would do a big difference for you in terms of load times and help with fraps.

That said AoC have a graphics engine that is beyond horrible and totally unsuitable for an mmo. Badly optimized and with several memory leaks. You could build a damn supercomputer and still have problems with that game.

The extreme heat has nothing to do with the cpu btw it comes from the two nvidia cars who gets hot as hell.

Posted: Aug 8th 2010 12:29PM Jef Reahard said

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I figured as much, but I can't really add cooling to the cards, and more CPU airflow is never a bad thing.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 12:38PM (Unverified) said

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I'd suggest downloading RivaTuner, and cranking the fan speed of your video cards up to 11. It'll get noisy, but greatly help the temperature.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 1:12PM Jef Reahard said

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@hypnotoad: I'll do that, thanks for the tip.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 12:34PM Verus said

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True good airflow is very important. Make sure you bundle the cables neatly that can help a lot with airflow through the chassi also.

Why no ssd btw for such a nice computer ?

Posted: Aug 8th 2010 1:00PM Jef Reahard said

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Didn't think of ssd, tbh, lol. Maybe I'll upgrade.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 1:08PM Jef Reahard said

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Forgot to mention that this particular case is great for cable management. It's got a lot of slots that route them behind the sheet metal and out of the way. Beautiful to look at and good for the air flow.
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Posted: Aug 9th 2010 12:22PM M1sterLee said

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That picture is the exact same case I have and I've got to say its awesome! I can only just hear my PC running even when I've got a game going which is pretty impressive. The good airflow and large fans really make a big difference.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 12:45PM archer75 said

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I would not have chosen a Core i5 1156. Socket has no future. No upgrade path. Future CPU's will be on 1366 such as the hexa Cores.
CPU has no hyperthreading which does make a difference. I would have looked harder at a socket 1366 Core i7.
I would ditch the SLI because it doesn't work so well in Conan. And you can buy a higher end card for the price of the two and get the same performance. And with less heat and power consumption if you go with a high end ATI card.

But that's just me.

Posted: Aug 8th 2010 1:03PM Crsh said

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Actually it's already been leaked that Intel has new sockets ready for sometime next year, both 1156 and 1366 are dead ends (or will be in ~18 months).
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 1:04PM archer75 said

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Oh that sucks. Well so much for that idea! Do you have a link to the article? I'd like to read up on it.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 1:05PM Jef Reahard said

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Well the i7 would've blown my $1500 price point, other things being equal. As for the video cards, depends on who you talk to I guess. Those two 460s were $450 for both. Not sure you could get a single card that out-performs them for that amount of money.



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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 1:16PM archer75 said

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ATI 5870 2gb card. Not on tiger direct but Newegg has some cheaper ones. As well as some other stores.
Not quite up to the 2 GTX 460's but close.

Many reports on the official forums while researching SLI said it just doesn't work or work well for Age of Conan. I have a 9800GTX and can play with all settings maxed at around 20-40fps. Not my ideal setup but it does pretty good. I would think a single GTX 460 wouldn't have any issues. I'm curious if you tested with just one of the cards to see? I am curious what the performance is like with one as i'm thinking of getting one.

I've just never been a fan of SLI. You spend twice as much, you get twice the heat, twice the noise, use twice the power but don't get twice the performance. Typically averages 30%-50% more performance for that second card(give or take depending on the game).

As for the price point, well, you paid taxes(we don't have that here) and overnight and added $250 so yeah, that did blow the price point. Though a 1366 i7 was only $80 more than the CPU you bought.
But then if Intel is replacing both the 1156 and 1366 sockets as crsh says then there's not much point I guess. The 1366 does have triple channel ram for more memory bandwidth so I wonder how that helps age of conan? It's what I have and it seems to work pretty well.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 1:28PM Jef Reahard said

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@archer: I haven't yet tested with a single 460. May do that eventually, but everything else I'm running (aside from AoC) is pure butter at 30-60 fps. That's no small feat on a 30" display at 2560x1600.

Also interestingly, AoC is the only thing (so far) that really ramps up the heat. Flight Simulator X is a notorious system hog and it hums along at 40fps with everything maxed and a lot less heat coming out of the case.

I didn't know about that ATI card though, that is a great option for people to know about. Thanks.
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