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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 8:14PM (Unverified) said

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They are truly glorious, glorious bastards.
What I find truly amazing about this is that only one person truly suffered a horrible, direct loss because of this transaction. The PLEX owner.
Some fool was dumb enough to buy 22 billion ISK worth of PLEXes and then hang around in Jita in a Kestrel, of all things.
I literally cannot bring myself to feel bad for this person.
If anything, I feel bad for the pirates who went after what was, and will be, the most lucrative target of their careers, and getting absolutely nothing because of random chance.
They chose the optimal path, the best possible course of action and got nothing. This makes me sad.

But seriously. The person who lost those PLEX cards is possibly one of the biggest morons in the history of EVE. He will go down in EVE history as a catastrophic failure of epic proportions.
It's so much of a failure, I can barely believe that it wasn't a deliberate setup.
I'm still not entirely convinced that it wasn't.

Posted: Aug 8th 2010 9:51PM (Unverified) said

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This could have been averted by doing it the old way. Buy the PLEX travel to the station you wish to sell at and then redeem the cards, this would have saved him a lot of cash and carebear tears
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 10:23PM (Unverified) said

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My favorite quote from the KB comments:
Demetrios: "What an expensive way to fuel a cyno, i prefer using liquid ozone my self."
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 11:35PM Belmondo said

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"If anything, I feel bad for the pirates who went after what was, and will be, the most lucrative target of their careers, and getting absolutely nothing because of random chance."

Was there something that the pirates could have done to get the cargo?
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Posted: Aug 9th 2010 1:06AM ScottishViking said

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So glorious, so stupid. I am grinning ear to ear.
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Posted: Aug 9th 2010 1:34AM (Unverified) said

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@Sniggab Odorf
No, which is the sad part.
When a ship is blown up in EVE, the game rolls the dice (figuratively) to determine which of the fitted modules and items in the cargo hold survive in the ship's wreck.
It's very random.

Also, if you look at the killmail that was posted in the article, underneath the ship fitting it lists all the items that the ship was carrying and equipped with. The items highlighted in green are what survived the ship destruction, while everything else simply ceases to exist.

So, in this case, 74 of those PLEX cards simply ceased to exist entirely, along with a few of the ship's modules.
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Posted: Aug 9th 2010 12:02PM Daverator said

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Since CCP directly benefits from these things "randomly" being destroyed, you have to wonder if anyone was tempted to alter the code a bit, 0/74 seems like a very unlucky set of rolls.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2010 9:47AM swarmofcats said

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@thain

I would guess the game only rolled once for the entire stack.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2010 8:19AM (Unverified) said

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It wasn't a pirate attack. I believe the content of this article may be misleading.

Official CCP News on the attack clarifies the situation.

The player in question who lost the PLEX was actually involved in an ongoing WAR with the parties who destroyed their ship.

This means that, in practice, ANY TIME they are IN SPACE they can be ATTACKED by their ENEMIES in the WAR. Just to make this clear, they should NEVER EVER have been flying with TWENTY TWO BILLION isk in their hold. Not in a War. Not In A Kestrel (fitted with 2x Invuln I as its sole tank). Not In Jita. (home of suicide gankers, and where the two killers made several other LEGAL kills as part of their ongoing WARS.

It has to be pointed out that this was probably not an opportunistic attack on a vessel known to be carrying PLEX, this was most likely a target of opportunity in an area where many in Eve flock in order to participate in Jita's thriving market hub.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2010 12:02PM (Unverified) said

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You are actually wrong. The player in question was an alliance leader of over 100 players and the entire alliance wallet was wrapped up in these plexes. Basically, he was an idiot who destroyed his alliance in one INCREDIBLY stupid move.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 8:15PM (Unverified) said

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EVE articles like this never get old.

Posted: Aug 8th 2010 8:15PM (Unverified) said

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This makes me feel sick. It's like that sick feeling you get when someone kicks a dude in the "junk", anyone around can feel it too just by seeing or hearing it happen.

Posted: Aug 8th 2010 8:16PM Fraul Pench said

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Blown!

Posted: Aug 8th 2010 8:17PM wondersmith said

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Nice to see EVE's innovative PLEX card system get some attention. For those who have more time than money (and who aren't foolhardy enough to go flying around Jita with 74 PLEX in their cargo holds), it's a great way to play for free. In a way, it makes EVE a F2P game...except that someone, somewhere, is always paying for those PLEX cards.

I wish more MMOs would utilize a similar system.

Posted: Aug 8th 2010 8:36PM wjowski said

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John Hobbes was definitely an EVE player.

Posted: Aug 8th 2010 8:50PM ChaosInc said

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Yes, the pilot was an idiot for sitting around with the PLEX, but this is the main reason I'm against these types of systems. As soon as in-game penalties start effecting my real life wallet, that's where I kindly step aside and say "No Thanks".

Think I'm insane? Then perhaps those people would also support an MMO that charges your credit card $15 each time you die. It was a nice experiment, but I see the cargo PLEX being nixed because of this.

Posted: Aug 9th 2010 4:47AM remover said

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There's nothing forcing you to buy these in-game items. Infact, the people who chose to buy and sell these can do so securely outside of the game through a legal web-based system that Eve/CCP maintain. It's a blunder on the pilot's side, and that's it.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 9:14PM xgamer99 said

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False.

Nobody lost money due to this. The only implications this has is in-game. This is how the PLEX system works:

Someone buys a 2x PLX for about $30 and sells it on the market. Someone else comes along and buys it from them. CCP doesn't lose money from the guy buying the PLEX because they were already payed by the guy who sold the PLEX.

Now, this poor bloke that lost 74 PLEX. He most likely bought them from several other players who were selling them. Those sellers got the ISK they intended to get when the poor bloke bought from them. So they are find -- they didn't waste $1,000+ because they all got the ISK they wanted.

Now the guy who got blown up -- he spent 22bil ISK (in-game money) to buy all those PLEX. When they are destroyed, the only thing that happened is he LOST his in-game money. The only way that this could have impacted your real-life wallet is if he personally bought $1,000+ worth of PLEX and then got blown up. Then yes, he just lost $1,000+.

The game revolves around risk and gamble. Unfortunatley, this guy risked way too much, but has provided the community at large with huge amounts of lulz. Thank you aystra.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 9:23PM (Unverified) said

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It's not that you're insane, and you're correct, the pilot was an idiot of monumental proportions.

The cargo PLEX isn't going anywhere, and I can see those that start whining about it being told to watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q and htfu.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2010 10:28PM Dblade said

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Yeah chances are he paid ISK with them and was trying to arbitrage. The sad thing though is that his whole corp and alliance are paying for it from what I hear: that was their warchest and sov fund.
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