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Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 12:03PM (Unverified) said

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As someone who bought the game when it came out and had to quit after a year due to some unforeseen circumstances it was really neat to be able to beta test the freemium experience.

I think overall folks will find it very akin to the DDO changes without feeling too necessitated to buy things and still not encroaching on the great world that is Middle Earth.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 12:35PM Snichy said

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I played the trial but just wasn't quite interested enough to subscribe but now its going F2P will definitely play again. The 2 or 5 gold maximum limit you can hold at a time seems quite low to me but then again that might be a lot in the context of the game :)

Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 12:39PM ScottishViking said

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2-5g limit is pretty reasonable for F2P. If you plan out your spending, it's perfectly reasonable. My first subscription toon, who was a poor spender, got to 60 while only ever carrying around about 3g. I'm a bit better at managing/making my money now. ;)
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 12:41PM DeadlyAccurate said

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While two gold is a not-insignificant sum, a two-gold limit means you can't purchase a mount (except the level 20 starter mount)
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 12:49PM pcgneurotic said

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I'm with ScottishViking on this - in LoTRO at least, I'm veeery slow to make money, but I still manage to craft/buy good enough gear.
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 12:50PM ScottishViking said

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That may be intentional, since you will be able to purchase mounts with RL money.
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 12:51PM (Unverified) said

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You can purchase a mount. F2P and premium folks will have to buy the skill through the lotro store though and will have no option of getting the skill through questing. If the pricing stays true the skill itself is only around 150 TP and a mount can be bought for 500s from Hengstacer's farm. VIPs (subscribers) will still be able to get the mount as normal or spend the free tp they get and get it as early as they want (you can buy it all from the lotro store as soon as you are out of the intro tut).

The gold limits can also be modified by purchasing unlocks through the lotro store as well, as can things like auction house slots and more bank vault storage or opening shared storage.

One thing that is a bit of a downer is that f2p/premium folks only get 2 bags to start and have to purchase unlocks for the other three. The good thing is that it applies to all characters on that server (possibly account wide, only one server for beta at present).

The wardrobe is also a bonus in my opinion as now if I run across a really cool armor set I can keep that 'look' on even though I really have other items with better stats equipped.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 1:21PM (Unverified) said

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That's cool... I've only been in the beta since a few days ago, so my NDA experience has been rather fortunately brief.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 2:30PM Dandmcd said

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Not much to say about beta, been in since the beginning, but have tried not to get tied too far into it, since I wouldn't be able to keep my progress. I think LOTRO as a F2P will be very successful, the cash store is setup very nice, and the way you buy more content should prove popular. The restrictions on F2P seem harsh, but to casual players who try to avoid paying a dime, I don't think they will be too bothered by the gold and bag restrictions, and they don't have to pay much to upgrade.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 2:43PM Lateris said

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Question. If I subscribe is it possible to obtain items that are in the store by playing the game. Or are these items only purchased?

Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 3:07PM aurickle said

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Most of what is in the store can be gotten from playing as well. For example, the festival and faction mounts can still be earned by getting their tokens or associated reputation.

There may be plans for cosmetic items or home furnishing that can't be earned in-game, but I have yet to see one in the store.

There ARE some things that cannot be gotten in-game, such as stat potions, temporary mounts or deed accelerators (letting you earn deeds twice as fast). Some of these kinds of items are meaningless to VIP players. The rest can actually be gotten with the free Turbine points that you earn just by playing the game. So even though they aren't available from within the game world itself, you can still earn them through in-game actions.

My experience is that the store just means more ways that you can accomplish your goals. You can earn things the old fashioned way, you can earn points that you use to buy things, or you can buy points with which to buy things. More options means more happy people, which will be a good thing. The only folks who are likely to be hacked off are the elitists who think that everyone should be forced to kill 1,200 dragons to get that last trait point or spend a week grinding out rep to buy a specific mount. ;)
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 5:37PM Lateris said

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So there is no pinching anyone from Turbine with price gouges?
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Posted: Aug 4th 2010 5:53PM (Unverified) said

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Subscribers are allotted Turbine Points they can use in the cash shop each month IIRC.
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 4:21PM (Unverified) said

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I have been playing the beta since the beginning. I played LOTRO when it first came out but then had to drop it after several months due to graduate school responsibilities.

I only mention this because the F2P model fits me perfectly. I am a person who loves the game but can only play it when both my students (i teach as well) and I are on breaks. It is hard to justify a monthly payment when I am unsure as to the amount of time I can play. Being able to spend a few dollars here and there on a character when I can play is a fantastic opportunity.

Let me assuage any fears that the game's quality has decreased.

One piece of advice though: buy the mines of moria expansion rather than the two classes individually. It will save you money.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 5:38PM Lateris said

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Yep- I played all the way to the latest expansion.
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 6:04PM Gallaphant said

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Some peeps have asked if you can play to the level cap without spending any real money. The answer to that is a resounding NO. You will have to buy quest packages such as the Lone Lands. As far as I can tell, there is just no way to avoid it.

Of course, I could be completely full of it, but I don't think I am.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 6:12PM aurickle said

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You do not have to buy the quest packs to level. You can still do the Epic quest line for some of your XP. You'll have access to four skirmishes, which can be repeated for more XP. You can also kill mobs for XP, completing deeds which in turn give you Turbine points. Complete enough deeds and you can buy a quest pack, which is then unlocked for any additional characters that you might play.

So yes, you can play all the way to level 50 without spending a dime.

Levels 50-60 require the purchase of Mines of Moria. 60-65 requires Siege of Mirkwood. Those do require money. But guess what? Subscription players have to pay that money for those expansions as well, so it's not like Freemium players are getting singled out. What's more, you could use your accumulated Turbine points from deed completions to cover a good chunk of the cost of these expansions. You could even start a new character, doing the same deeds for Turbine points and covering the rest of the expansion cost. So ultimately, you could indeed reach level 65 without having spent a dime.

That doesn't mean that most people would find that much grinding to be fun. Some will. And I guarantee you that there will eventually be a number of level 65 characters who have gotten there without spending a single real-world dime.
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 6:20PM Aetrix said

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My beta experience has been quite superb. After their fail downloader trashed about 6 gigs of files and the game refused to install, I said screw it and sent it to the recycle bin.

I have been keeping myself amused by deleting the numerous 'beta update' emails I have been receiving ever since.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2010 11:04PM (Unverified) said

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Sadly, I'm ashamed of Turbine. A large amount of us testers are unable to access the beta. Thanks to their distribution method (pando) which usually has a decent success rate, certain .dat files are corrupted at the time of installing. The Patcher also overlooks the absence of such files if the user chooses to ignore the file during install (even though the devs swear the patcher will fix it on their original help page).
After countless requests by numerous members of the community, we have had no response or support from their *shocker* CUSTOMER SUPPORT.

Thanks Turbine, your the greatest.

Posted: Aug 3rd 2010 8:10AM Dread said

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So the most important question - what do i need to farm now to earn beaucoup gold once the Freebies get on ??


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