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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 9:10AM (Unverified) said

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Always nice to hear rich people getting richer while the people who made them that way suffer ( I liked TR so pfffft face)

Posted: Jul 30th 2010 9:12AM (Unverified) said

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Good. NCSoft is a dick company who ALWAYS cut corners. Ruin your own games NCSoft, but don't dick around game designer legends.

LORD BRITISH GET YOUR PAPER

Posted: Jul 30th 2010 5:42PM (Unverified) said

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The point is NCsoft said he quit. If he quits he has not stock protection. His contract stated that if he was fired he could exercise his stock options at any time for ten years. If he quit he had 6 months. Thus since they said he quit he lost money because he had to exercise his stock options in the middle of a recession.

Thus while he was in space and later in quarantine he supposedly quit. All communication while in space and quarantine is recorded so if he quit then it would have been very easy for NCsoft to get the recording and prove their case.

He didn't quit they dumped him and tried to make it seem like he quit.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 5:53PM (Unverified) said

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I know this is the Internet, so expecting a little common sense from people is like asking a dog to speak, but if you do just a little bit of reading, you'll know that if he was actually fired, he would have had ten years to exercise his options instead of being forced to sell when he did. Now I don't expect a sensible comment from you, but if you're going to rail against millionaire cosmonauts, at least get your facts straight.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 5:56PM (Unverified) said

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Sorry, David, my comment was directed at Tempes Magus. The reply system here is a bit awkward.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 5:57PM Omali said

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"Richard Garriott seems like a spoiled whiny rich nut. "I'm gonna sue yo a** cause I didn't make what I thought I would when I got fired!"

The whole point of the lawsuit was the Richard Garriot was fired, and NCSoft forged a letter of resignation so that he would not be entitled to benefits IN HIS CONTRACT if he were FIRED.

Try reading the article before you comment on someone else's integrity. It makes you look like less of a reactionary 10 year old.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 6:32PM Tovrin said

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When I read this originally on Kotaku, I gave of a little WOOT!!!

I have a hell of a lot more respect for Richard Garriot than NCSoft. In fact as far as I'm concerned NCSoft are the scum of all MMO companies, dropping a game when it begins to get a sniff of not bringing them a profit. Even the much hated SOE keep games on life-support and even actively support them while they have low populations. NCSoft will kill them dead ... even if those games are offered to be taken up by the community or other companies.

Stick it to them Lord British. Stick it to them hard! Now get the license for Ultima back from EA and begin working on a new one!! :)
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 9:16AM (Unverified) said

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They really should just eat it and walk away. Shit, my company has had to eat a lot worse...

Posted: Jul 30th 2010 10:18PM GaaaaaH said

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Tempes

This ruling means that Richard was correct in the matte (which is why he won the lawsuit). The distinction of whether he quit or was fired is the issue ass it determines the amount of time he had to sell his stock, not whether they were right or wrong in firing him
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Posted: Jul 31st 2010 7:09AM Tovrin said

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"This is just my objective view here. I don't care who wins, I just want to find out who was really right."

@Tempes Magus - Rubbish. From all your comments (here and in other places as you merrily sing the praises of NCSoft), you've already decided that NCSoft is in the right. You just want the rest of the world to agree with you.

But tough ... NCSoft is in the wrong. You're backing the wrong horse.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 9:17AM Cicadymn said

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Guys guys guys, they're both just...just awful.

Posted: Jul 30th 2010 9:40AM wraith808 said

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How are they both awful? Richard Garriott hasn't done anything awful that I've seen.

Posted: Jul 30th 2010 9:58AM (Unverified) said

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you mean you don't remember how he put out TR than just left it like it was a red headed step child and went off to live a childhood dreams of being in space with the money from selling all those boxes?

that alone make me never want to buy a game from this guy, despite him being a legend. Who knows one day he might put out a game and than suddenly want to live out his childhood dream of taking a wagon and going on the Oregon Trail.

i'm sorry be sound spiteful. I didn't even play TR past the first month. all i'm saying is it's odd that he puts out a game and than boom, "oh i'm leaving my post and going into space" than leaves the game to die. than comes back to earth and says oh i'm putting out a new game -.-

I'm almost positive that he volintarily left his position for a space ride. and i'm almost positive massively has a article about him living his position and going for a space ride.

IMHO i'll prob be down rated but thats fine. Legend or not it was a d*ck move to all those players. than to come back and say well, i guess i'll just put out a new game. when he should have stayed and worked on the game before being a child.

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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 10:05AM (Unverified) said

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here is the link to the article where richard talks about leaving to go into space, than read all the pissed off comments

http://www.massively.com/2008/11/11/richard-garriott-announces-his-departure-from-ncsoft/#comments
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 10:14AM Rubi said

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Part of the lawsuit from Garriott is regarding that letter. Garriott claims that NCsoft wrote the letter without his knowledge or consent.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 10:32AM Dumac said

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@june32nd

You got the picture slightly wrong. His space flight was supposed to be a realization of his dream AND a publicity stunt for TR. I remember something along the lines of TR users being able to send him a message that he could broadcast into space, or something like that. So it was something that involved the game, he didn't outright leave and abandon it. But what happened is that the publicity part didn't quite take, and NCsoft used his time away from the company to fire him and forge a letter, and shut down TR shortly after that. This last part are his claims, but obviously the situation isn't as black and white as we would like it, which means that we shouldn't outright dismiss him as a liar and hold a huge grudge against him, until we know the truth. And this verdict leans towards his side of the story.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 10:34AM wraith808 said

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@Rubi - Exactly. I played TR through the end. And it is *still* one of the best MMOs for getting that adrenalin pumping feel of an FPS while still having the depth of an RPG. Was it perfect? No. But it's definitely better than anything out there right now to fill that Sci-Fi FPS niche. And from my communications with the devs and everyone involved, they didn't feel like he left them out to dry. He pursued his dreams, for sure. But your work shouldn't eclipse your dreams when you can go after it. If you're going to do something like that, you build a solid team of people you can trust, and let them start to carry the ball. And he did. Why was *one* man's presence going to sink or carry the game. He is a designer and architect, not a programmer. And part of the reason that he was involved was his vision and his name. Neither one of those left when he went into space.

So again I ask, what did he do that was so bad?
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 11:11AM JTShadow said

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June32nd, two things here.

1st. Yes it was a dream of his to go to space, with something like that, opportunity only knocks once in a lifetime. It'd be understandable to some degree if it was something he could have put off for another time, but it just doesn't work like that.

2nd. Look up Operation Immortality, He was promoting the hell out of Tabula Rasa with his space trip, there was a contest to get your DNA taken up to space, and even Stephen Colbert's DNA went up with him, he didn't leave Tabula Rasa to rot by far, why not think about things a little before you start trolling?
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 11:45AM alinos said

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@ joshua

thats not helpful publicity in my mind

offering stuff like that to people isnt going to get them into the game and the if you assume you need a current scrip to be eligable anyone already playing is entered so what do they really care

the costs of sending him up into space could have been something that could have been tied to actual marketing and more productive ways of keeping the games going

the fact that someone who already has money is sueing someone for more money that he doesnt need is disgusting

its the same as tv shows getting axed because the actors start asking for massive amounts of money that they don't really need

he would have had inklings that things were amiss before he left i mean they shut down the servers not long after from memory

i mean if hed gotten more money he could have gotten to a point where it infringed on other projects that are currently running to the public or in development all because of his personal excessive greed
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 12:15PM Jade Effect said

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Garriott is but one man. Nobody is so indispensable that the entire game would fail because he's on a trip to space.

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