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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 10:20AM Arkanaloth said

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space is cold, EVE Online makes it even colder. It's stories like this that simultaneously make EVE an amazing and terrifying place to game.

Posted: Jul 29th 2010 11:00PM (Unverified) said

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it is pretty amazing that people who have fun by purely ruining others' chance of having fun, and enjoy provoking emotional responses from others, are shamelessly claiming their way of playing is valid. I just hope they are obviously behaving like that in rl so I can keep distance from these people before having to be disgusted by them.

the system is not without flaw however. In highsec, even with insurance adjusted, suicide gankers still win the game of risk vs rewrad (isk wise), and it discourages new players from getting into mining.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 10:33AM (Unverified) said

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Hulkageddon is a completely valid way to play the game. It griefs miners and makes people aware of who some of the most pathetic players in the game are. Anyone that really knows how to play the game would get bored with attacking defenseless ships as it is more fun to fight someone that is a challenge. So, most of the people that do this are incompetent players.

Posted: Jul 29th 2010 10:46AM OmegaTwig said

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On the contrary, many people who "really knows how to play the game" (Im going to assume you mean people who mostly PvP) view hulkageddon as a nice break from whatever Lo-Sec or Nullsec wars/struggles/etc... they are currently involved in...

Plus its also fun to get a bunch of friends together, consume too much of some liquids and try to find some hulk kills in HiSec or Jita even...
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 10:33AM Jade Effect said

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Stories like these affirm my belief a large chunk of pvp players are the biggest carebears, who are only able to get their jollies ganking others who can't fight back.

Posted: Jul 29th 2010 1:55PM (Unverified) said

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Actually pvpers are players who will go for any target, fairly matched or otherwise.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 10:53AM Existentialist said

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I get my jollies off of killing battleship priced ships in EVE.

You see EVE is about death, your death my death. "Fair Fights" or "Challenges" usually only happen on accident.

Killing someone's ship that cost 100 million is nice, collecting care bear tears is the real reward. Want to see why people grief? It is for a chance at quality carebear tears like this:

http://www.kugutsumen.com/content.php?47-Rorqual-Pilot-goes-mental

Posted: Jul 29th 2010 11:10AM ScottishViking said

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I would be pretty pissed if I lost a Rorqual too, but the pirate's responses make it all worthwhile:

[ 2010.01.31 12:44:02 ] Kelron Queldine > Maybe you should spend less time working out
[ 2010.01.31 12:44:07 ] Kelron Queldine > It's clearly damaged your brain

lololololol
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 12:47PM mmark said

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It is actually the Rorqual pilot that would be suspended from EVE for obvious transgressions against the EVE Rules of Conduct, as well as potential legal action for threatening bodily harm against another player, abusive language, and hate speech.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 10:56AM Samael said

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The reason why I stay away from that game.

Posted: Jul 29th 2010 10:57AM (Unverified) said

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I don't play EVE but any chance to mass-kill botters seems like a worthwhile goal to me -- even if a few "innocents" get caught in the crossfire.

In many PvE MMOs, for example, it considered "sport" to try to kill botters that you could normally not attack by luring them to their death or training large amounts of aggressive mobs onto them.

Posted: Jul 29th 2010 11:25AM Kalex716 said

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Its a misconception to coin miners, industrialists, and mission runners as innocents. This is something people who cling to these notions try to propagate and i suspect you put it in quotations because you have this suspicion as well, nevertheless, its fun to consider this thought experiment....

You are a seasoned miner, who regularly puts your wares up on a local market for cash in hand profit. You sell your minerals at smart prices in this market, and you've been doing it for a long time. You log in, mine, and sell in the same spot. Now, another industrialist gets breaking news that a hulkageddon is going to start soon. For whatever reason, this industrialist scouts out your particular market as a reasonable place to set up shop, so he takes his brutix and magnetic field stabilizer, and ammo (typical ganker gear) blueprints to the hub and begins buying up minerals. He just so happens to start buying out your orders, and is giving you cash for your minerals, and starts to build out brutix' and mag stabs and ammo at huge rates to capitalize. Now weeks later, hulkageddon starts, and a seasoned combat pilot docks up, buys a brutix and a full set of mag stab, and ammo from the industrialist that your minerals essentially built. He goes out and finds your hulk in a belt and blows you up. If you openly knew that your minerals ended up in the hands of your own killer, how does it make you feel?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 11:51AM WonderPenguin said

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People who find this fun probably also enjoy kicking puppies and serial murder.

Posted: Jul 29th 2010 12:12PM (Unverified) said

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Yes, of course! Everyday after blowing up my favorite brand of space pixels, I abuse animals and have some crunchy babies for dinner!

More on topic, people act like this is breaking into miner's homes while their sleeping and murdering them. Its more like this: People are outside with megaphones yelling that if you go outside with a purple shirt they will kill you. Now, purple is your favorite color, so you have a few options! You can just not wear the purple shirt for a while, or you could only wear it when they're not around, and quickly hide when you see them coming! Walking outside in your purple shirt then flipping out when you die is pure hilarity for everyone else.

Helicity actually does a pretty good job of explaining why this is Puppy Murder 5000: http://www.machine9.net/blog/?p=336
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 12:21PM WonderPenguin said

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Now, granted, my comment was tongue in cheek...but you do realize killing people for wearing purple shirts would constitute a classic serial killing right...

If I'm being serious, I agree that the only ones griefed by this are the ones allowing themselves to be. And frankly, if that's something that gets to you EVE isn't the game for you to begin with.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 12:45PM HereticalPenguin said

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I certainly wouldn't want to participate in a game that persecutes me just for wearing my fancy purple shirt.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 2:31PM Monkey D Luffy said

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What's so bad about serial murder?

Kicking puppies is bad though.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 7:42AM Valdamar said

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Yeah kicking puppies is very bad.

You need a steak mallet to tenderise them properly before cooking.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 12:58PM (Unverified) said

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Well its an analogy, it doesn't hold up once you start looking at it closely.

But really, alot of people get a false sense of entitlement, that they deserve to afk mine and be completely safe. I agree that the insurance system needs work, and many of the Hulkageddoners would likely agree with that as well. But even if the insurance system was fixed, you'd still be able to suicide gank, and doing that doesn't make you a horrible person in the same way that me contract scamming people doesn't mean I steal peoples identities (note i don't actually contract scam, though i'm trying.)

And yeah, if you can't stand preventable losses, then Eve ain't for you.

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