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Posted: Jul 28th 2010 9:11PM Tsuyin said

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Despite playing XI for years, and entering the beta "pool" in at least 3 different ways, I still didn't get invited =/
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Posted: Jul 28th 2010 10:43PM (Unverified) said

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Downloading the beta right now ^^b didn't get to do Alpha so I'm super excited, especially seeing the update videos. Hope my rig can handle it X.x
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Posted: Jul 28th 2010 11:55PM DotCom said

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Awesome! Now I can actually play!

They have greatly improved it over the past couple weeks since I've been on.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 2:21AM Dranaerys said

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The one thing I wish they'd improve upon is the keyboard/mouse camera controls. At the moment they are so terrible that I find myself preferring to play with a gamepad. I never tried FF11, was this the same back then, or did FF11 also control like most MMOs? (as in mowe forward/back with WS and strafe with AS, while controllng turning and camera with the mouse)
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 3:15AM DotCom said

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I played it with my Dualshock 3 controller this evening and it played a whole lot better then with the mouse and keyboard. Controllers are fine by me and I enjoyed it a lot more tonight then I did previous nights.

FFXI had weird default control settings and played better with a controller too.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 3:32AM Jade Effect said

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I don't understand what Square-Enix is thinking when it's trying to make players buy console controllers for a PC game. It's a PC game, give us smooth PC controls, and not some console-ified port.

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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 11:21AM mmark said

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FFXI plays extremely well using just a keyboard alone. Don't let the fact that you don't have a cute fuzzy mouse in your hand stop you from playing a good game, and with your hands at the keyboard, you can easily writes messages to people. Actual communication with other humans!
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 8:44PM (Unverified) said

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@mark

There are countless threads and posts on other forums about how terrible the controls are, so don't try to make it seem like it's everyone else's problem.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 1:06AM TheGreatMachine said

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July 12th? I should check that email account more often ^^;
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 1:28AM Dranaerys said

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Nice. Hopefully leves arent limited to 2 day cooldowns anymore either, doing nothing but grinding mobs or crafting got boring fast :P
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 3:18AM DotCom said

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2 Day cool downs are still around it seems. They are trying to encourage partying with people who need help with there Leves. I think they need to lessen the cool down to a few hours really. Everyone is gonna play and use up the 3 leves you get and have nothing to do for 2 days unless new players join. But by then your level is too high to want to.

So idk... we'll see.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 3:19AM Zetsuei said

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Replying to where you asked if FFXI handled as bad with the controls and sadly it did. The numpad arrow keys was what you would use to move your character, and using a mouse wasn't a option. It was so clumsy and hard to click anything. To move your camera you would use the normal arrow keys I believe(been a few years since I played, so don't yell if I get a few things wrong. If you stuck with it you would get used to it and it would become second nature. If you used a game pad it was sooo much better though, which is saddening.

The question is why do they keep ignoring something so simple to fix? Add in better mouse support and let people bind any keys to what they want and all of this is fixed. Why they are so hesitant to not remedy this is unknown and a bad omen if you ask some people. They didn't fix it in FFXI, and thus far its not fixed in FFXIV.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2010 6:54AM (Unverified) said

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About the FFXI controls - I used the mouse to look around (mouse control was easily enabled) and the WASD keys to control my character. Some of the mappings were odd, but I never seemed to have as much trouble as some people appear to have done.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 6:18AM Khalus said

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The reason behind controls being designed for a controller instead of KB & Mouse is so that all players are on an even playing experience. Thus if the PC had superior and faster, more refined controls, then we'd have an advantage over a player on console using a controller. Its all about making the game fair for all players, and the primary reason SE never enhanced FFXI on PC while the PS2 slowly died off.

If you think the whining about no jumping, swimming and PvP is bad now, just think about how much worse it'd become if we PC gamers had that superior advantage over console players.

All-in-all this new generation of gamers just need to learn how to adapt to new and unique control methods and not get all bent out of shape over "one" new MMO that doesn't play exactly like everything else. They should all be eagerly intrigued to finally receive an MMO that doesn't copy & paste everything out there already.

And for the record, "Keyboard Only" controls work wonderfully, and are my primary choice! However, while it can take some players a little while to figure them out, which one should do instead of ranting on every MMO board how much they suck at adapting to new controls, once they do; they may find it to be quite exciting and enjoyable too.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 7:12PM (Unverified) said

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You know, I am sorry... not really. This is a crap argument. Does Toyota create a new way to fasten seat belts for every car released? Does Square create a brand new controller with new buttons for every title released on a PS3 or 360?

Do I have to figure out how to adapt to a new keyboard because I buy a Mac or PC? What about a grocery store? There is a reason main checkouts are near the main exit doors and not in the back of the store.

Standards are important. Square is demonstrating their uncompromising ways in infinite levels of ignorance and hardheadedness (sic). We have USB standards, Blu-ray standards. Many many examples. Standing on the Square side of the fence for their poor (unconventional) Kb/Mouse controls on PC is pure fanboism, at it's best. So to allow their audience to "play" together on PC and PS3 they handicap a majority of players who have been playing computer games using UX and control schemes standardized for at least 10 years.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 8:47PM (Unverified) said

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This argument is laughable.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2010 1:32PM Thrishmal said

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You know you want to get me into Beta, Massively :-D
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