Worried that Blizzard's Real ID system may be coming to an MMO near you? BioWare Mythic has a few words of reassurance on that point: "No. Never. Never. No." This was the response by Warhammer Online's Carrie Gouskos to Eurogamer when asked if BioWare Mythic was mulling over a Real ID-type feature for its games.
BioWare Mythic's general manager Eugene Evans supported that sentiment and expanded on it: "We wouldn't do it. I'm surprised they did it, and for a group that is so close to their community, it was amazing that they misread it that poorly. I'm pleased to see them reacting to the community. We should all learn to listen to our communities. Their community made it very clear what the right answer is."
This follows the controversial decision -- later retracted by Blizzard -- to force World of Warcraft forum posters to use their real names in an attempt to cut down on trolling and forum spam. Since the controversy, other MMO studios have come out strongly against Real ID, so it's good to see that this includes the folks behind Warhammer Online, Dark Age of Camelot and Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Reader Comments (31)
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 12:34PM Lethality said
She's fooling herself if she really believes she or anyone at BioWare has absolute rule on this, and that EA doesn't have something planned to connect all of their games even more directly, just like Real ID.
Count on it.
Count on it.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 12:56PM (Unverified) said
The problem here is the REAL part of it. Just having communications between their games isn't the problem, its just the fact that it displays your real name without an option to not show that.
So, yes, she may be stating something true in that they won't have a RealID system, but they could still come up with some form of IM between games that doesn't require or show a person's true name but uses a specific username.
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So, yes, she may be stating something true in that they won't have a RealID system, but they could still come up with some form of IM between games that doesn't require or show a person's true name but uses a specific username.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 1:18PM Keen and Graev said
We know that Activision has plans to connect all of their games. It's only a matter of time.
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Posted: Jul 26th 2010 3:19PM Deadalon said
I dont think Carrie Gouskos has much say about what EA - Bioware do. She was the last resort to take over WAR when pretty much everyone else had left. She was 5th Producer in 2 months ? Something like that.
You can qoute my dog and claim he is talking on behalf of EA/Bioware. His Woff Wooff would be as big news as Carrie Gouskos opening her mouth.
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You can qoute my dog and claim he is talking on behalf of EA/Bioware. His Woff Wooff would be as big news as Carrie Gouskos opening her mouth.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 12:41PM TheJackman said
LOL before bioware say something maybe they need check with EA first also they need quit it try to complete and release a MMO first before they give critic at blizzard that running a stable mmo game for 6 years. RealID works great ingame its a nice way to keep in contact with your guild mates when you playing the other faction toons and a needed for a raid or run!
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 12:59PM The Other Chris said
But they could have done it without using your real name. Paragon Studios' City of Heroes has had Global Names for years, allowing you to see who is on what character on what server, and also has 'advanced' features such as the ability to hide globally, from local friends, from searches, etc. Impressive for a team of, at the time, 11 or so people. Blizzard is a giant and can't even get in-game options to disable RealID and forces you to go to log into the website.
Yes, the idea behind it is great, see who is on, what they are playing, etc. It's the implementation was poorly done, almost like they weren't thinking (or were rushing it out to meet the SC2 launch). As the BioMyth GM stated, "for a group that is so close to their community, it was amazing that they misread it that poorly." This is why I am waiting to see what their plans are with ReaID before I buy any more of their products.
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Yes, the idea behind it is great, see who is on, what they are playing, etc. It's the implementation was poorly done, almost like they weren't thinking (or were rushing it out to meet the SC2 launch). As the BioMyth GM stated, "for a group that is so close to their community, it was amazing that they misread it that poorly." This is why I am waiting to see what their plans are with ReaID before I buy any more of their products.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 2:27PM TheJackman said
I think it goes way to far to compare Hitler with Blizzard! And you are right its a old game and the 1-60 content of WoW did not age well that's why they redoing most of the 1-60 content. Blizzard did keep WoW alive all this years like they did keep adding content. They keep opening the door for more people to play it. Sure months may go by sometimes that noting is added to the game but there Blizzard teasing marketing going on.
Also the RealID news that was so bad was that they gonna use RealID for forum post and you was not able to post without reveal your Real name... However they did understand the huge problem after some time and 100000 of post all over the internet. And they did take it back.
The RealID in the game is clearly only for your true friends! they remember you every single step you need do to add someones RealID to be careful.
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Also the RealID news that was so bad was that they gonna use RealID for forum post and you was not able to post without reveal your Real name... However they did understand the huge problem after some time and 100000 of post all over the internet. And they did take it back.
The RealID in the game is clearly only for your true friends! they remember you every single step you need do to add someones RealID to be careful.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 12:48PM Faryon said
I can believe that they won't make a system that uses peoples real name, they might make a RealID system like it should be though: With Aliases.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 12:48PM Teki said
I like the way SOE does it. I'm not a huge fan of the real id. so as far as I am concerned +1 for BioWare Mythic. I do agree that they need to check with EA, before making bold statements.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 3:09PM (Unverified) said
Developers do NOT have the ability to deny what their parent wants.
If EA says something is to be done like Real ID, then it will be done.
Mythic-Bioware can't stop it, they can only quit. Game developers are not hard to replace, just a little above average in difficulty to replace.
If Bioware wants something they need EA's approval.
If EA wants something, then bioware has no choice in the company.
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If EA says something is to be done like Real ID, then it will be done.
Mythic-Bioware can't stop it, they can only quit. Game developers are not hard to replace, just a little above average in difficulty to replace.
If Bioware wants something they need EA's approval.
If EA wants something, then bioware has no choice in the company.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 12:51PM mikejr said
Blizzard is going to move forward on the RealID, it's only a matter of time. This is a priority(mandate?) of theirs. Read the publication.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 1:02PM Dranaerys said
I dont know why everyone bitches so much about realID, I love the feature. Before I had my friend list cluttered with friends toons and their 2 or 3 alts, now one name covers it all!
But I guess I am not a pretty girl, I hear tits + RealID sics the stalkers on you, so take it all with a grain of salt. :P
But I guess I am not a pretty girl, I hear tits + RealID sics the stalkers on you, so take it all with a grain of salt. :P
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 1:30PM Danieros said
Guild Wars has been doing that since release, and it didn't need to show real names for that. You add one character to your friends list and you are able to see when he's online even if it's on another character at that same account.
That's the key of the issue - showing real names. It would perfectly fine if it worked like Steam, no need for real names.
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That's the key of the issue - showing real names. It would perfectly fine if it worked like Steam, no need for real names.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 1:02PM Keen and Graev said
Really? More on this Real ID thing?
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 2:38PM GryphonStalker said
I think Scott summed it up the best -
Scott Jennings @ Broken Toys
"The debate by those in favor of Blizzard’s actions have been largely to the degree of “well, I don’t mind if my real name is out there, so what’s the big deal?” As noted by the fact that these blog posts are authored by Scott Jennings and not Lum the Gnome Warlock, I don’t particularly mind, either.
However, I made that choice. One should not deny others the ability to make choices regarding their privacy simply because you did not find them necessary."
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Scott Jennings @ Broken Toys
"The debate by those in favor of Blizzard’s actions have been largely to the degree of “well, I don’t mind if my real name is out there, so what’s the big deal?” As noted by the fact that these blog posts are authored by Scott Jennings and not Lum the Gnome Warlock, I don’t particularly mind, either.
However, I made that choice. One should not deny others the ability to make choices regarding their privacy simply because you did not find them necessary."
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 1:23PM (Unverified) said
It was a decent idea implimented poorly. Now every other studio out there gets to score easy PR points off Blizzard's mistake and learn a little about how to do it right.
The fact that a juggernaut like Blizzard would make such a controversial move in the first place AND THEN retract it does more to demonstrate why Blizzard is where they are today and less about how they are evil monsters.
I will continue to reward them with my 15 bucks.
The fact that a juggernaut like Blizzard would make such a controversial move in the first place AND THEN retract it does more to demonstrate why Blizzard is where they are today and less about how they are evil monsters.
I will continue to reward them with my 15 bucks.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 1:23PM (Unverified) said
It was a decent idea implimented poorly. Now every other studio out there gets to score easy PR points off Blizzard's mistake and learn a little about how to do it right.
The fact that a juggernaut like Blizzard would make such a controversial move in the first place AND THEN retract it does more to demonstrate why Blizzard is where they are today and less about how they are evil monsters.
I will continue to reward them with my 15 bucks.
The fact that a juggernaut like Blizzard would make such a controversial move in the first place AND THEN retract it does more to demonstrate why Blizzard is where they are today and less about how they are evil monsters.
I will continue to reward them with my 15 bucks.
Posted: Jul 26th 2010 3:44PM (Unverified) said
EA absolutely owns Bioware. SOE has nothing to do with the Star Wars MMO in development by Bioware, I have no idea where you got the idea SOE is involved in this title. Lucasarts owns the IP.
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