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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 2:52AM (Unverified) said

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Hm, I'm not sure about urging new players to enter wormholes. A newbie has no chance to survive a Sleeper encounter, and that's what you'll if you approach the belts in w-space.

Posted: Jul 19th 2010 4:45AM (Unverified) said

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I have mined in WH space quite a bit and never saw sleepers there. Pirates are a danger but not sleepers. Even the rats arent that bad. I have been known to mine in to a can and come back for it in an indy with out trouble and the amount and quality of the ore will even cover the loss of one of my ships. something that can't be said for most of EVE. The thing no one ever seems to say in these threads is that no one ever groups out side of their corp in eve. Thats why you need a good corp. 5 or 6 guys in cruisers could make a killing doing anything in EVE, even within a month of picking up the game. The problem with this sandbox is there are no classes. In a fantasy game one guy would pick a healer another a tank and so on to fill a role in a group. but in eve no on wants to fill roles every one want to be a jack of all traits, well then you have to deal with being the master of none.

TLDR: There are 25000+ people playing with you, dont play alone.

Posted: Jul 19th 2010 7:28AM Surelle said

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Nice article, Brendan.

So what do you think about Hulkageddon 3, the ganker-run Eve event where mining ships that can't fight back get blown up for nine days straight?

I'm kind of surprised I haven't seen much mention of this on Massively.

Posted: Jul 19th 2010 7:36AM Brendan Drain said

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I ran a big piece on this at the start of the month:
http://www.massively.com/2010/07/03/lock-up-your-mining-barges-the-hulkageddon-cometh-to-eve-online/

My personal take is that it's something that's completely valid by the game mechanics and the style of world CCP have built. While it's not fun for hapless miners who don't know it's going on, I think it's a perfectly valid part of the game. Some miners are even turning it into a competition. One guy said his corp were running a contest to see who can mine the most during hulkageddon, and another got some friends together and came up with a way to enact retribution against the suicide gankers.

It's that kind of response more than the griefing itself that symbolises what EVE is all about. It's not the fact that you can be a villan that makes the game great, it's the fact that the presence of very real and tangible villans gives everyone else the chance to be a hero in the truest sense of the word.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 8:53AM (Unverified) said

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Sorry to tangent off the focus of the article here but I wanted to share my hulkageddon experience. Yesterday was the last day as far as I think I know, and I am a 2 month old pilot who has 2 accounts currently. I was minding my own business mining with 2 cruisers, 2 secure cargo containers, in Metropoliis, using a Hoarder to haul back and forth...not bad profit for being fairly new (a couple million isk an hour). Anyway, I was in a field with a Hulk, watching the local chat chatter for about 3hours about hulks and hulkageddoners, waiting for something to happen.

I saw a ship warp in close to the hulk, I was about 2k m away, then warp out in seconds. A half minute later (this was a .7 sec asteroid belt, mind you), 5 criminal flagged ships pop out of nowhere, and proceed to blow the hulk to bits. About 5 seconds after that, a huge fleet of CONCORD warps in and demolishes all the pirates.

I was left alone with 5 blue shipwrecks to loot as I please. I swooped in fast and wound up with about 15 or 20 different cannons/lasers, a bunch more ship fittings, and a mess of navy ammo. For a new player with not much isk, this was like hitting the lottery. Mustve been 30 to 40 free items in my cargo. Great gift for my small upstart corp.

[THROW] corporation thanks you.

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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 8:13AM (Unverified) said

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Some good tips, but don't encourage non-veteran players to run solo in a wormhole. Rule of thumb: if you run dscan from the entry WH and a POS shows up, leave. If not, before running any sites, warp to the other side of the system and repeat.

It's not uncommon for WH occupants to put a warp bubble on entry WHs to try and catch cloaked ships entering or leaving.

In short, if a WH has a POS in it, your chance of being caught and killed while running sites goes up 1000's of %'s. Not worth the risk.

Posted: Jul 19th 2010 8:22AM Brendan Drain said

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This part of the guide is geared more toward older players bringing new ones with them. However, even new players haven't got much to lose by heading into a wormhole in a frigate to see what's on the other side. If the wormhole is bubbled on the other side, remember you spawn within jump range and can just jump back. In that sense, there's never any risk in just jumping in to see what's in the immediate vicinity.

If you plan to stay and scan around, though, I'd advise using a cloaked ship and only sticking around if you know how to use the directional scanner to stay safe. Wormholes are definitely not something a new player should attempt on their own, and even veterans would be best getting some help.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 9:21AM DeadlyAccurate said

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I've been in wormholes with POSs a lot and the only time I ever had a problem was the first time I ever saw a POS and approached it like a dumb cockroach. "Ooh, what's that pretty bright light there?"

::splat::

I iz dum

As long as you stay away from the POS, stay cloaked, and keep an eye on the directional scanner, you're pretty safe.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 9:22AM Oarix said

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Just wanted to say 'thank you' for all these EVE guides. Your efforts are insanely appreciated and I look forward to every one. They are a staple of Massively.com and are the major contributing factor of me even coming here.

Keep up the excellent work!

Posted: Jul 19th 2010 9:29AM Brendan Drain said

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Thank you :)
It's always awesome to hear that people like the guides! I really enjoy writing them!
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 5:11PM (Unverified) said

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Thanks again for the guides! My WoW addict friend browses this blog from wow.com and he always reads your articles even though he has no interest in the game. I check every new one that comes along, always more to learn in eve.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 2:12PM (Unverified) said

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Yup, love the guides, keep it up, Nyphur.
However, stay away from sensationalist 'revelations' like the article on the dev allocation. Lost a lot of my respect on that one.
Oh and regarding wormholes...we've had noobs running clas 5 anomalies (!) in rifters with us with no problems. Hell, even had a plated cormorant survive a site. Logistics ftw!

Posted: Jul 19th 2010 3:49PM Dblade said

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It's nice in concept, but its adding a lot of logistical hassle for the same reward as other things in the game: ISK. Your average new player will get far more ISK by ignoring WH completely and using exploration to ninja salvage mission runners.'m surprised you didn't mention that aspect of exploration: all you need is a tech 1 frig, and a salvage dessie and you can make millions of ISK robbing people blind in hi-sec.

Posted: Aug 4th 2010 3:51PM rgolch said

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Wow. Brendan, you guides are amazing. If I would have had some of these earlier, I probably would have tried more aspects of the game. Keep them coming. I'm eternally grateful.

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