Well, it's all over after all. The evil dragon released by Blizzard has been slain by Blizzard again, after several days of people alternately cursing and staring slack-jawed in disbelieving horror. We can all go back to slaughtering Internet Dragons again, and the privacy issues are dealt with forever. Or if not forever, at least for now. Important lessons have been learned, lives have been ruined, and we can all go back to the way things were a couple days ago.
Or can we?
When your friend has a few drinks and smashes your entire living room to pieces but apologizes for it afterward, you usually aren't going to toss him a beer the next time he's at your house. Even though the unpopular decision has been reversed, it's understandable if your ire toward World of Warcraft hasn't cooled just yet... or if your trust in Blizzard isn't wholly restored. Are you willing to forgive and forget? Or is this the sort of thing you're going to remember for a long time?
Reader Comments (72)
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 8:14AM (Unverified) said
It'd be remembered a lot longer if it was implemented. As is however, most people will have forgotten or no longer care by the time Blizzard updates the forums with their promised changes.
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 11:15AM Daverator said
I think it shook faith in blizz a good bit, that they would even suggest that this should happen. That it would pass by their umpteen layers of scrutiny and still be OKd means that one thing was in their eyes. And that wasn't "creating a sense of community".
Between this and the celestial mount, I think its safe to say Activision is now obviously giving pointers at Blizzard.
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Between this and the celestial mount, I think its safe to say Activision is now obviously giving pointers at Blizzard.
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 12:19PM (Unverified) said
It's true, there really is something strange when thinking about how this made it as far as it did. I was curious how someone with hardly any background with WoW (aside from hearing the name) would react, so I told my mom. Even her jaw dropped when hearing what they planned to do, seems to me it's common sense you just don't do this, and I never read a solid defense from Blizzard backing it up.
Even so I believe the majority of players will have forgotten or never even have known what might have been. There was nowhere near 11 million complaints thrown at Blizzard after all.
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Even so I believe the majority of players will have forgotten or never even have known what might have been. There was nowhere near 11 million complaints thrown at Blizzard after all.
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 12:24PM Rich said
I wouldn't forget because there was a key phrase in their statement that makes me wary...
"at this time"
that is the key. It could come back, probably after Cat and SC2 launches so they can get the sales from those games.
They aren't done with RealID and you'll see them partner up with more places aside from Facebook.
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"at this time"
that is the key. It could come back, probably after Cat and SC2 launches so they can get the sales from those games.
They aren't done with RealID and you'll see them partner up with more places aside from Facebook.
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 12:28PM Icemasta said
For me, trust is hardly gained and easily lost. With games like Starcraft, Diablo 1 and 2, Warcraft 1,2 and 3 and the upcoming Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3, Blizzard stood as the best video game producing company as well as the best company overall with the action they took and how they listened to the players.
But things went a bit too far here, especially how they responded to player's worry with "this is optional" and "We're moving on anyway.". Those responses is what killed the trust and it felt harsher because they fell from much higher compared to other companies.
The whole thing left me with a very bad aftertaste with Blizzard, and I do not plan on resubscribing to WoW or re-ordering Starcraft 2 for a good 6-12 months. I'll watch how they do things and handle issues and if it changes my opinion I'll come back, but if it does not, I'll stick to other companies that I currently trust more than Blizzard.
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But things went a bit too far here, especially how they responded to player's worry with "this is optional" and "We're moving on anyway.". Those responses is what killed the trust and it felt harsher because they fell from much higher compared to other companies.
The whole thing left me with a very bad aftertaste with Blizzard, and I do not plan on resubscribing to WoW or re-ordering Starcraft 2 for a good 6-12 months. I'll watch how they do things and handle issues and if it changes my opinion I'll come back, but if it does not, I'll stick to other companies that I currently trust more than Blizzard.
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 8:17AM yavo said
it will be forgotten except by those who can use it to support there arguments, won't be long before ppl are just tired of hearing about that old 'real id' thing.....
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 8:23AM Monkey D Luffy said
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 8:26AM Greyhame said
I'll be keeping an eye on where they take the Real ID system based on this. Wasn't as worried about their plans for it until this.
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 8:33AM (Unverified) said
Definitely makes you wonder what the hell they are thinking at bliz HQ... I don't play wow but it's blizzard and you know if they do something EQII will jump on board a week later and then someone else and so forth... and I thought cashshops were as dumb as the MMO genre could get...
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 8:37AM (Unverified) said
There is no forgiving or forgetting when it comes to invaded an entire communities privacy without their consent(No Real Id display - but no forum posting access as an option would make consent something you could actually give.). Even joking about such a thing would be remembered in years to come. I will not forget or forgive, It will be one of those thing I always remember. That wont stop me from enjoying their games though.
Related: I'm all for an unique identifier for their games/forums("community"?) but privacy is and always has been the most important thing on the internet. Nobody should be forced to adhere to some bizzare rule that doesn't even make sense in the first place.
I don't personally believe it's wrong to want to stay anonymous, Should there be limits/rules? Definatly.
From what I understood from some of the Real Id loving that was going around was that they just want less trolls on the forums. Names dont stop that. In fact it'd probably create more. "OMGZ UR NAME IS BAD OLOLOL U SUX" I don't know about you.... But I could see that happen.
Oh by the way.. Admins/Mods see account names on the forums anyway... they just dont ban trolls(Only goblins).
Regardless, I'm happy they decided one something other than displaying personal information without permission. But they will never be forgiven for such a horrible idea. Something like this should never be forgotten and never be repeated.
...This turned out a lot longer than expected. I guess I had quite a bit about to say about the situation afterall.
Related: I'm all for an unique identifier for their games/forums("community"?) but privacy is and always has been the most important thing on the internet. Nobody should be forced to adhere to some bizzare rule that doesn't even make sense in the first place.
I don't personally believe it's wrong to want to stay anonymous, Should there be limits/rules? Definatly.
From what I understood from some of the Real Id loving that was going around was that they just want less trolls on the forums. Names dont stop that. In fact it'd probably create more. "OMGZ UR NAME IS BAD OLOLOL U SUX" I don't know about you.... But I could see that happen.
Oh by the way.. Admins/Mods see account names on the forums anyway... they just dont ban trolls(Only goblins).
Regardless, I'm happy they decided one something other than displaying personal information without permission. But they will never be forgiven for such a horrible idea. Something like this should never be forgotten and never be repeated.
...This turned out a lot longer than expected. I guess I had quite a bit about to say about the situation afterall.
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 8:36AM dudes said
Complete breakdown in trust for Blizzard. Might try out Cataclysm but warily. One small hint of privacy invasion and it's over.
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 10:25AM GryphonStalker said
I honestly can't blame you Dude.
Maybe we're all just naive in thinking that Blizzard (even at it's current size) were still just gamers like us.
Dechion's post on his blog about sums up my feelings and fears on the matter - http://dechionsplace.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/blizzard-likes-farmville-too-bad-we-are-the-sheep/
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Maybe we're all just naive in thinking that Blizzard (even at it's current size) were still just gamers like us.
Dechion's post on his blog about sums up my feelings and fears on the matter - http://dechionsplace.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/blizzard-likes-farmville-too-bad-we-are-the-sheep/
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 8:38AM Dumac said
I won't be forgetting it, the magnitude of things may fade over time, but i'll remember that Blizzard has become one of those large companies that prefers not to be constrained by ethics and policies and be only held back by laws and players that get pushed to their absolute limits. RealID is (will be) still there, it only has a smaller use now, that doesn't take away my concerns. I don't think i can trust them.
Posted: Jul 10th 2010 8:41AM Trodomir said
How DARE you! Manos? Will the horror never end?
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