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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:12PM KorvusKorax said

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The scare of mass exodus can do that to a company's CEO.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:41PM (Unverified) said

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Level 1 trolls rejoice!
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 2:29PM Its Utakata stupid said

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Although lv 1 trolls maybe rejoicing, Jake. The alternative would be far more punishing to everyone who posted there using their real names. I would rather have the lv 1 trolls instead. Thankx.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 3:13PM ultimateq said

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I guess you're right, to Quote the Raven.

I think it's a bad move though. I think the RealID is a good idea. And I think a lot of companies should do the same. I can't imagine what life would be like where our game forums are actually civilized.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:51PM (Unverified) said

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Gamers sure seem to lover hyperbole. It wasn't a mass exodus. It got to 50,000 posts and many of those posts were people posting again and level 1 alts. I actually must have posted about 25 times myself. But let's just take it as a base number.

50,000 people is 0.4% of the player base. While I'm sure that's probably the biggest lump cancellation in WoW's history, it's still a drop in the bucket. All these people going: "I've cancelled and my wife has cancelled and all my friends have cancelled!" sort of cracked me up. I talked to most people on WoW about it and they were like "Why would you quit the game? It's only the forums."

If Blizzard conceded ground on this, it's probably because they thought it wasn't worth the hassle of having to deal with all the melodrama. Why have to have a discussion with the ESRB when you can just change the implementation a bit? You also get all the good will because you "listened to your customers."

I still have to laugh, though, at all the people that threw the baby out with the bathwater. I wonder if those people that cancelled special edition pre-orders or got their Battle.net accounts purged regret it now. Should have waited to see how it played out.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 6:28PM KorvusKorax said

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@UltimateQ

Oh yeah, I'm ALL for them trying to rid the forums of trolls and the sort. This was just an exquisite case of "didn't think that through". It's like putting a fire out with your dog, sure the fire is out, but now your house smells of burnt hair and there is no one to get your paper for you. You fix one problem just to create other, more serious, problems.

.....ok, fire/dog analogy may have a ton of holes in it, but you get my meaning.

I for one am all for the one (made up) master account name associated to a battle.net account and that's all you post with. Or at least all a persons alts are visible when the post.
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Posted: Jul 10th 2010 12:38AM Its Utakata stupid said

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Liam, you have no idea how hard WoW's population took a hit over this...so you really can't make that claim based posts on the Forum responces. It's is telling that the original decison before being resindered was likely the result of a legal binding agreement between Battle.net and Facebook. So it's quite likely that it was more than melodrama that caused Blizz to balk. The potential for lost revenue and a plethora of multiple legal headaches was probably incentive enough for Blizz to pull the plug on it.

Though I'll add...this would of not have happened if the mutiple of players would of not raised the issues in the first place.
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Posted: Jul 10th 2010 5:45AM (Unverified) said

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50 000 posts, yeah. By 13 000 individual accounts.
That's called padding the thread.

And of those 13 000, some supported the idea, taking the number down further.
Just for perspective.

And what's with the ridiculous conspiracy theory of a secret deal between Blizzard and Facebook?! - Or a "legal binding agreement"?!

"a plethora of multiple legal headaches"
Huh?
You would of course be informed that you were posting in your real name, before you posted, so how could Blizzard in any way be held liable for a users own decision to post in his or her own name?

This has been blown SO out of proportion.
VERY few people would have to make the decision NOT to post on the forums. That would have been the extent of the matter. I can see how that might be a little bit of a nuissance to them, but not how it could be anything more. And it would by all accounts mean a much cleaner forum for the rest of us.

But I digress.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:15PM (Unverified) said

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apparently "la resistance lives on!!!" :P

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:15PM (Unverified) said

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Ok, get out of the bomb shelters people. The nuke didn't go off.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:20PM (Unverified) said

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**DELETED BY EDITOR, NO TROLLING, NO AD HOMINEM ATTACKS, ETC ETC. COME ON. YOU KNOW BETTER. -BREE**

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 2:22PM Its Utakata stupid said

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I voting this comment back-up, because I think the edited version is amusing. :)
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:22PM Seare said

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I don't play WOW, but I think this is good news. I did a graduate school paper on Privacy in the Digital Age (few months ago) and it scared the crap out of me. Corporate America does not give a crap about your privacy or safety. They want to make money. They are determined to link all of your online IDs together, so they can make money off you. The problem is that they are not and can not keep your information safe. Once a bad guy gets that information, you're screwed. We as netizens need to protect ourselves. Don't buy into that forum civility mess. That was a cover for the deal they made with Facebook. They wanted your information and your friends information.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:26PM Dartanis said

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I wonder how much work was put into developing realID only to have it scrapped

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:32PM Enikuo said

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Real ID will continue to be offered for the purpose it was initially advertised for - to stay connected to your friends and family.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 2:18PM Temko said

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one junior code monkey for 2 days implementing the DealID standard.

i shit ye not.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:27PM Arkanaloth said

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good... an initiative that needed to die crumbled under the public opinion. There are enough privacy concerns on the internet without presenting yet another one.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:34PM Deadalon said

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Blizzard was forced to take it back cause if not - they would have had to change the age restrictions for playing ALL Blizzard games to 18 years.

The REAL ID system is not a system that guaranties ppl using their real life name. Based on that simple fact that Blizzard can in no way verify the real name of the user - they can NOT force ppl to use the so called "real name".

Secondly - by law kids of the age of 12 are not accountable for their actions. This includes revealing their own name on the internet. No "I agree" button on Blizzard forums would ever change this fact. The legal age for kids in many countries is 16 and in others even up to 20. The minimal age restriction on all Blizzard game would have to be 16 in most countries - 18 in some and 20 in few.

But... we all know that Blizzard would NOT change the age restriction on their games. They would loose 80% of their custimors and by law -they would have been totally unable to maintain the real ID forums system that the first reports were claiming.

Lastly - you really have to wonder what the heads of Blizzard/Activizion are thinking. They seem to have totally lost it. Even now when they are taking this Idea back to the drawing board... they will have lose faith of many of their gamers... cause the idea was so stupid and unpractical in the first place.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:45PM Cendres said

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This is a good point I had not thought of before, in my opinion I think all kids should be monitored who play MMOs, but that's just not the case, I forget that minors could have been exposed to this.

If they are taking it back then they did not look at everything that could go wrong other then massive rage. I think Real ID is actually a good idea in theory but maybe it's a good idea to work it out first and look at all the legalities before hand. If this is Facebook induced, Facebook should have been the first to tell them that they need to make it optional since Facebook has learned about privacy and giving people control over what's public and not, since they first launched (FB used to piss me off in that regard.)
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 1:55PM Deadalon said

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I agree with you CindyL. The REAL ID system is good as an optional choise of the users. There are alot of gamers that will use it to share their gaming experience of Battlenet games.

But the magic word here is optional. The Real ID forum system was not. And neither was it system that could verify that you were using your true first and last name. Thus - by law they would not have been able to "force" individuals to use their "real name".
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