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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:09PM Harley Dude said

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I've never played WoW, so you'll have to help me out here...how hard would it be for me to make an account with a fake name and fake info if I wanted to troll the WoW forums? Unless the answer is "next to impossible", I don't see how this will clean up the forums.

Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:23PM misterorff said

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Your name is attached to your Credit Card info which they require to make an account, so first you'd have to get a fake but working Credit Card with your name on it... which in the US is next to impossible and highly illegal...
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:50PM Deadalon said

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You do not need creditcard information to create battlenet account. You do not NEED to use CC to play WOW. There are pre-paid cards.

Real-ID is NOT real ID. Anyone can create multiple Battlenet accounts.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:58PM Deadalon said

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I just created an account with the name John Ghostcrawler. Just to proof the point...
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 5:00PM (Unverified) said

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Or do everything prepaid under a fake name. Not hard at all.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 6:03PM (Unverified) said

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In actuality, if you use a CC it has NOTHING to do with your name on the account. You choose the name of your account on day one. You can use your CC or any other person's CC to pay for said account.

What people are failing to comment on is that this is not only a ploy by Blizzard to squelch the flaming in the forums, but it also is a ploy to help eliminate account sales. If you know that your name is going to be permanently and publicly associated with your former account, would you sell it?

Every point Seraphina made is right on. There are so many Cons to this change, that no number of Pros could ever outweigh them. Hell, I only count 2 Pros and both of them don't much matter to the playerbase as it is.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 6:38PM Its Utakata stupid said

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I agree, you don't need a credit card to create account with WoW or Battle.net. So in effect you can use an *alias....

...the big problem is that is anything goes horribley wrong with your account such it got hacked for example, you then have to prove to Blizz your the actual person holding that account. If your using an alias you pulled out of your ass on the fly, you will be SoL I'm afraid. :(

*Note: I have actually thought about doing this enlight of Real ID announcement...but was advised not to based on the problem that was pointed out to me, above.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 6:38PM Eamil said

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The name on the credit card doesn't have to match the name tied to your account anyway.

I have ample proof of this, as I've paid for a friend's WoW account before.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 6:51PM Deadalon said

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The point is tho ... it will not stop trolls posting. It will stop normal ppl posting that have maybe have some really good points to tell.

We have just showed everyone that you dont have to use real name. So trolls will buy the orginal game for few dollars - create a false name and post day in day out - like never before. They will not be leveling any characters so they will not need to use the recovery process at all.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:09PM nomoredroids said

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I like this article a lot. That is all.

Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:18PM mttgamer said

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I couldn't agree with you more. This is one of the best articles I've read in quite some time!
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 4:41AM Joystiq Login Bugs SUCK said

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Great and well thought out article Sera, kudos where they are due, and they are.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:10PM (Unverified) said

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I'm just saying, and not that I would ever do this, but seeing as how I've worked in multiple places that with your name, I could find massive amounts of information on you. Granted I would be violating employer laws, as well as HIPPA, the point being, with a name, and the right job, I could get information on a guildie that I never needed to know?

Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:12PM (Unverified) said

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That wasn't meant to be a question.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:11PM J Brad Hicks said

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There is no actual anonymity on the Internet. Or anywhere else in life. If somebody wants to know badly enough, they can find out anything about you. If enough people want to know, even casually, they will eventually find out everything there is to know about you. That's reality.

I made a conscious decision way back in the Fidonet days, back in 1983, not to hide behind a pseudonym, and I've stuck with it. Even in places where I'm encouraged to use a nickname, I use the same one everywhere; two seconds' Google search will tell you everything you're likely to want to know, and probably more than that. How's it worked out for me? Great.

On the other hand, I don't lie to anyone about who I am, or what I believe, or what I think. And I go out of my way to treat people with as much kindness and generosity as I can scrape up. Even when my sticking up for the furries attracted the brief wrath of the Something Awful Goon Squad, the relative transparency of my life left them with nothing they could particularly do to hurt me other than call me names -- a "threat" I was inured to by age 7.

If you can't imagine living the way I do, I feel the same way about you. Dear gods, how much effort does it take to remember who you've told what to, how much you can reveal and how much you need to conceal in every conversation? Once you've revealed anything to anyone, how do you ever sleep again, knowing that they might tell someone that you don't want to know? My way is much simpler: I do whatever is worth taking the consequences for, and take the consequences. I say what I think, and I don't care who knows it. I am who I am, and people can take or leave it.

Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:20PM Daverator said

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It is true that given enough effort almost anything you do could be traced back to you.

The problem is that when you lower the effort level to almost nothing, the likelyhood becomes almost 100%.

I am going to go ahead and make a prediction. A prophecy. If this goes through, it WILL lead to someone being harassed in REAL life, not an ugly forum post, but something being mailed to the persons real address, or prank calls on their phone.

For an analogy. Any lock can be picked by a pro. Or merely removed by anyone with a few tools and the spare time. Does this mean we should just take off every lock of every door and every car in the world? NO. The fact is the time/skill it takes to bypass a lock (or trace an identity) is part of the protection it affords, so much so that safes are often rated by the amount of time it takes a trained technician to bypass it.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:31PM Brianna Royce said

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Fantastic analogy, Thain. *Yoinks*

-Bree
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 5:33PM wjowski said

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Simply put, you got lucky. Lucky that some psycho a million miles away didn't decide to hunt you down and hurt you or your loved ones for slighting him. Lucky you were never passed over for a job because your employer decided to look you up on the internet and decided your hobbies made you of questionable productivity. Lucky your identity haven't been stolen or worse.

You say there's no true anonymity, but why make it easier? Luck doesn't last forever.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:13PM (Unverified) said

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Good idea, but City of Heroes already thought of it 6 years ago. Anyway, the reason they are using real names is because they have plans to get this all tied into Facebook. Don't let the "but think of the community!" crap fool you. Not that I care either way.

Posted: Jul 8th 2010 4:21PM BaronJuJu said

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Exactly, this isn't about stopping trollers, this about continuing their plans they announced back in May with Facebook...

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/05/blizzard-and-facebooks-friendly-social-networking-deal-launches-with-starcraft-ii-/1
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