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Posted: Jun 27th 2010 8:17PM Celicynd said

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Why change to free play when you charge a monthly fee, have a cash store already (with items with stats... new $25 mount for example) and also sell a virtual card game with in-game loot cards (that do have stats on them)?

Posted: Jun 27th 2010 9:33PM (Unverified) said

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Mounts have stats in EQ2. Its par for the course. Why would you buy a $25 mount with nothing on it when you can get one with bonuses in game?

The loot cards from Legends of Norrath are mostly cosmetic.
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Posted: Jun 28th 2010 10:21PM (Unverified) said

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you do relize that there mounts in the game that you can buy with in game currency that have stats on them...so why would they sell a non stat mount no one would buy them...and its not they made the stats so overpowered that you have to buy it.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2010 8:23PM (Unverified) said

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Seems like they're doing the F2P thing already, minus the whole "Free" thing.

Posted: Jun 27th 2010 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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If I remember correctly, that is only available on the station exchange servers.
There are only 2 of those and about 40 other servers.
That being said, its very easy to opt out of people having the technokitties on your server.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2010 8:58PM Sunlover said

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Never say never.

Posted: Jun 27th 2010 9:02PM (Unverified) said

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What he should have said is "We will not be switching to a f2p model because SOE cant comprehend anything but the old way of doing things and if we tried anything else we would fail hard"

Posted: Jun 27th 2010 9:13PM Egobrane said

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Or maybe the playerbase really just doesn't want people paying to get a huge advantage or things they worked hard for.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2010 11:32PM Sam not Spam said

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Except SOE is behind Free Realms (F2P), The Agency (last I heard was going to be F2P), Planetside (has? had) a free-play program (freemium), Pax Nora can be played free, etc.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2010 9:08PM Scuffles said

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Didn't Turbines LoTR reps say the exact same thing like a year ago ?

The thing is F2P has one massive thing going for it and thats a larger player population. MMO games are all about player population.

If there is no one around to play the game with you sorta lose out on the MM part of MMO.... which leaves you with Online ..... and there are a lot of single player offline games that would be just as entertaining at that point that don't charge me a monthly fee ........ unless you play them on OnLive lol

If the games population supports staying P2P more power to them but more and more games I love seem to be suffering a slow lingering death. With low population server mergers and the periodic mass exodus when something new and shiny comes out. We shall see where they stand in another years time, Tunes change.

Posted: Jun 27th 2010 9:17PM Blacknimbus said

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I wouldn't mind seeing Star Wars Galaxies go F2P.

Posted: Jun 27th 2010 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Phew, a reason to play EQ2

Posted: Jun 27th 2010 10:07PM blix2006 said

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yea sony has no right to criticize anyone when there games are all adopting item malls...and the whole "buy there way to power" comment he made is retarded...nothing you can by in ddo is considered buying your way to power.i repeat NOTHING.sony isnt making any friends here....all there mmos are horrible and dried up..and scruffles you hit it on the head..its about population...this will be great for lord of the rings..it doesnt effect subscribers at all other then you will have more people to group with(if they buy that content).and you get tp every month...if you never spend it odds are you will save enough to buy the isengard expansion for free when it comes out.

Posted: Jun 27th 2010 10:18PM Phirmware said

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How on earth can you say this will not effect LOTRO subscribers at all, when it has not even been implemented yet? You have no idea what items will be in the store and no idea what it will cost in terms of TP. I've seen some of the items in DDO's shop. Yes, technically you can get item X by farming for it for 10 hours straight, or we can sell it to you for $1.50. So please, let's not come off that Turbine is better than Sony in any way, shape or form.

Any thoughts on whether this will be a positive or negative for LOTRO, or EQ2 to a lesser extent, is pure conjecture at this point.

I applaud SOE for not taking the sleazy route with a F2P pricing model.

Oh, and FYI, paragraphs are your friend.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2010 11:00PM Blay said

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Phirm you know there won't be any big difference between the DDO item shop and the LOTRO item shop since it is being handled by the same company and DDOs shop was a success for them so why would they change it?

The f2p option is anything but sleazy, they give people who can't afford the game a chance to play for free and get everything a paying customer gets if they are willing to put time in to get it. Then the VIPs get it soon as they sub because they are what is paying for the games support/development. How else could they manage to pay for development and support then?

They could go back to subs and slowly watch the game population drop when the people who don't want to pay for MMOs leave, they could charge full price for the game and let people pay for free and use the box sale $ like GW, or they can stay the f2p route that has boosted the games population quite a bit and lets the thousands of people who don't/can't pay the chance to enjoy the game while increasing revenue and lets the game continue to be updated.

I actually prefer the DDO f2p system followed closely by the GW system for the state the game was in. No need to follow suit with a sub only option and watch the game slowly die off like more then half the MMOs out are doing. Go look at just about every population chart of the current sub based MMOs and you will see them falling, maybe not to closing status right now but they are dropping. Problem is when they get so low that content isn't being pushed out then you see it slump even more from players quitting and no new players subbing for a game that isn't being updated and that is when it is only a matter or time before it closes its doors.

Really in DDO you could even sub VIP status for 2-3 months and if you play enough hours you can buy all the content with the TPs and save the monthly TP gift points and get all the content and unsub and play truly for free at that point. Then when new content hits you can just pay a few $ for it or spend a day or two farming TP and buy it and remain 100%.

This is in no way bashing EQII, if the developers are profitable and want to keep it sub only then it is their choice but before you start bashing another game and calling it sleazy you might want to take off your fanboy cap and take an unbiased point of view before spewing nonsense against something that saved a game and opened new doors for thousands of MMO gamers to have fun and have a game to call their virtual home.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2010 11:18PM wjowski said

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Maybe you oughta take a closer look at DDO's store...where you can currently by a new character with a greater number of stat points than the norm, alongside permanent stat boosting items.
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Posted: Jun 28th 2010 2:07AM CCon99 said

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"I applaud SOE for not taking the sleazy route with a F2P pricing model."

No, they took the even sleazier route, by forcing microtransactions on to their subscribers who were loud and clear in not wanting them in their game. Why wasn't Greg or Smed listening to their players then? Because they only listen when it benefits their pockets.
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Posted: Jun 28th 2010 4:11AM (Unverified) said

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Or, Wjowski, you could just play the game and unlock all those things without paying for them...
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Posted: Jun 28th 2010 6:17AM Blay said

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Wjowski, the Drow race is one of the easiest to unlock in DDO, and don't forget you can easily get 100 TP per server within 1-2 hours for the first time milestones and buy that race with TP if you are to lazy to spend the few days unlocking it with favor rather then TP.

And remember the people buying those tome stat increases are paying for the server and development which is actually improving the game even for the free players without them spending a dime. Besides those tomes are buyable on the auction house, or farmable at later stages in the game.

So should boxed xpacs be treated the same way? People spending money get the new content and better items via RL cash, oh wait in the DDO system you can get everything in the game without spending a dime if you put the hours into it.
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Posted: Jun 28th 2010 6:54PM wjowski said

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You're missing my point, which is that these things shouldn't be purchasable at all, nor should any gameplay-affecting items. And EQ2's all the worse for selling similar items while still maintaining a subscription.
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