With launch day closing in, crime MMO All Points Bulletin has been getting its payment scheme in order. The game's pricing structure was revealed at the end of April, including several flexible pay-per-time and monthly subscription options. In addition, the game will have a currency called "RTW points," which can be used for character customisations or converted into game time. While looking through the payment options in his account management page early this morning, one APB forum poster spied a strange button that set off a few warning bells in his head. Marked "VOIP Premium," the option removes adverts from APB's in-game voice chat for 30, 90 or 180 days in exchange for payment.
This was the first players had heard of adverts being inserted into their voice chat and speculation began to run wild in the game's pre-release forum community. Players feared the worst -- that right in the middle of their game, a radio advert would start playing over their speakers. Community Officer Toxico was quick to address concerns, explaining the exact circumstances under which the ads will be played. For an advert to play, you have to be entering a district and must not have heard an ad for the past three hours. This ensures that they'll never interrupt normal play and won't play in an irritatingly high frequency. While some forum posters are avidly opposing a premium VOIP service, most seem content with the explanation provided and the conditions under which adverts will be played.
[Thanks for the tip, Kip!]
Reader Comments (93)
Posted: Jun 24th 2010 10:10AM Thac0 said
I kid you not, this game is optimized to find ways to generate revenue. voip adverts, in game billboards etc all on top of box fees and fees for playtime. Couple that with less than stellar game play and you have a Failboat being built. I love love love the customization but that does not a game make.
Posted: Jun 24th 2010 10:15AM misterorff said
Wow... just... wow...
Canceling Pre-Order in 3...2...1...
Canceling Pre-Order in 3...2...1...
Posted: Jun 24th 2010 10:33AM Anski said
You are cancelling your pre-order because of
"For an advert to play, you have to be entering a district and must not have heard an ad for the past three hours. This ensures that they'll never interrupt normal play and won't play in an irritatingly high frequency."
Wow.
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"For an advert to play, you have to be entering a district and must not have heard an ad for the past three hours. This ensures that they'll never interrupt normal play and won't play in an irritatingly high frequency."
Wow.
Posted: Jun 24th 2010 10:37AM misterorff said
No, I am canceling because I would have to pay $50 for the game, plus $/hr. to play in an action district... PLUS have to hear an ad? No thanks. I can play plenty of other games and not have to hear an ad. There are companies taking advantage of players for money, and then there is this.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2010 10:44AM (Unverified) said
Expect to never play another MMO then.
Blizzard went the microtransaction route, and many other "Pay $50, pay $/MO" are going the route of increased revenue.
Personally? I'd rather hear a small voice clip for 10 seconds, then see a million sparkly "my little pony" mounts flying around.
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Blizzard went the microtransaction route, and many other "Pay $50, pay $/MO" are going the route of increased revenue.
Personally? I'd rather hear a small voice clip for 10 seconds, then see a million sparkly "my little pony" mounts flying around.
Posted: Jun 24th 2010 10:47AM misterorff said
The difference between items in a cash shop and an ad is: I don't have to buy the sparkle pony (and won't).
I would have to hear the ad... oh unless I want to pay to not hear it...
If you NEEDED items from a cash shop to enjoy a p2p mmo, then no its not worth playing. A p2p mmo with optional cash shop items don't bother me one bit.
If DDO had in game ads, I'd be fine. Its free. They could put a billboard for Mountain Dew in the harbor for all I care.
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I would have to hear the ad... oh unless I want to pay to not hear it...
If you NEEDED items from a cash shop to enjoy a p2p mmo, then no its not worth playing. A p2p mmo with optional cash shop items don't bother me one bit.
If DDO had in game ads, I'd be fine. Its free. They could put a billboard for Mountain Dew in the harbor for all I care.
Posted: Jun 24th 2010 10:57AM Unverfied B said
"Personally? I'd rather hear a small voice clip for 10 seconds, then see a million sparkly "my little pony" mounts flying around."
This.
I for one wouldn't mind the billboards in the game to have some (stylistically fitting) RL-ads either.
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This.
I for one wouldn't mind the billboards in the game to have some (stylistically fitting) RL-ads either.
Posted: Jun 24th 2010 10:59AM (Unverified) said
Let me guess, you don't pay for cable because of the commercials, right? Don't pay your taxes because of billboards? Don't go to movies because of the ads before the trailer?
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Posted: Jun 24th 2010 11:04AM misterorff said
Hmmm actually, I don't pay for Cable because I can watch all the shows I care about for free using an HD Antenna... and they have commercials but its ok because I don't pay for the shows. I can also watch on Hulu for free, with no commercials.
I don't generally go to movies, and when I do I go to IMAX, which doesn't show commercials (at least my local one). When I do watch movies its usually out of the Red Box.
I do pay taxes, because I am legally required to and that argument has nothing to do with a video game.
Oh and before you ask, I always bring 1 carry-on and never check baggage on flights because no, I don't feel like paying those fees...
So what did that have to do with VOIP Ads in an mmo? Or are you just trying to attack me personally now...
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I don't generally go to movies, and when I do I go to IMAX, which doesn't show commercials (at least my local one). When I do watch movies its usually out of the Red Box.
I do pay taxes, because I am legally required to and that argument has nothing to do with a video game.
Oh and before you ask, I always bring 1 carry-on and never check baggage on flights because no, I don't feel like paying those fees...
So what did that have to do with VOIP Ads in an mmo? Or are you just trying to attack me personally now...
Posted: Jun 24th 2010 11:08AM (Unverified) said
Just trying to grasp the mind of someone who complains about a 5-10 seconds audio clip during a loading screen, to an increasing ad/microtransaction genre
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Posted: Jun 24th 2010 11:13AM misterorff said
... yeah must be hard to understand why someone doesn't want to hear an advertisement...
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Posted: Jun 24th 2010 11:16AM (Unverified) said
Especially when it's during loading screens... 5-10 seconds audio only ad... and only after 3 hours.. and if you switch districts... which is nullified with volume control...
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Posted: Jun 24th 2010 11:26AM Its Utakata stupid said
Well, contact...
...when you've played the game a bit, tell us then how your enjoying the paid advertising bites on your voice chat system. And whether it really is any better than "a million sparkly 'my little pony' mounts flying around." Because you can't really say for sure you'll enjoy it or completly drive you bonkers, when you haven't experienced it ingame since it hasn't been released. But I will tell you, if I hear a Mcdonalds or Pizza Hut jingle everytime I zone in for my daily random in WoW and have to pay a premium to opt out, I'll be looking for another game to play. Just saying...
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...when you've played the game a bit, tell us then how your enjoying the paid advertising bites on your voice chat system. And whether it really is any better than "a million sparkly 'my little pony' mounts flying around." Because you can't really say for sure you'll enjoy it or completly drive you bonkers, when you haven't experienced it ingame since it hasn't been released. But I will tell you, if I hear a Mcdonalds or Pizza Hut jingle everytime I zone in for my daily random in WoW and have to pay a premium to opt out, I'll be looking for another game to play. Just saying...
Posted: Jun 25th 2010 9:26AM DeadlyAccurate said
I don't pay for cable because of the ads. I get very tired of companies dipping into both ends of the till. Though admittedly, my tolerance is extremely low. I stopped watching TV 18 years ago, and while I watch plenty of TV shows via Netflix/DVD, I simply cannot abide the sheer number of advertisements shown on television. I bought a year of Pandora One because I didn't like the few ads that played during my listening time. I don't even watch Hulu because the number of ads is still too much for me. Yes, a minute and a half of commercials in a forty-minute long show is too much. That's how much I detest commercials.
So yeah, forced ads in VOIP suck, though I don't know if many people even use the VOIP option in the game. We used Mumble. Unlike Pandora, I wouldn't consider paying extra to remove the ads. I would just turn the VOIP option off, or completely mute all in-game sound.
More and more, I fear this game has fail written all over it. The gameplay has about as much depth as COD: MW multiplayer, and the two maps get old pretty quickly. It was fun at times, and some of our battles were memorable, but I just don't know if it'll keep a significant player base long enough to hit its potential.
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So yeah, forced ads in VOIP suck, though I don't know if many people even use the VOIP option in the game. We used Mumble. Unlike Pandora, I wouldn't consider paying extra to remove the ads. I would just turn the VOIP option off, or completely mute all in-game sound.
More and more, I fear this game has fail written all over it. The gameplay has about as much depth as COD: MW multiplayer, and the two maps get old pretty quickly. It was fun at times, and some of our battles were memorable, but I just don't know if it'll keep a significant player base long enough to hit its potential.
Posted: Jun 24th 2010 3:05PM (Unverified) said
So turn the in-game voip off and use vent or something. Seems very easily avoided. Not to mention if it's only at load screens (ie. entering a district) then I don't see the big deal. Especially since it's an MMO that takes place in modern times. I'd be flipping out if I were fighting elves with a sword and an advert trying to sell me coca-cola came on - well, if it's not shadowrun anyway. But I don't see the big deal here. It not only fits the setting, but it probably helps keep the price at $9/month unlimited.
If I were them I'd just make realistic in-game radio stations with ads. They already have a full-on music player with no ads and a ton of tracks in the game. Plus it totally fits the setting. They could probably even offer internet radio stations the chance to be piped through the in-game music player.
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If I were them I'd just make realistic in-game radio stations with ads. They already have a full-on music player with no ads and a ton of tracks in the game. Plus it totally fits the setting. They could probably even offer internet radio stations the chance to be piped through the in-game music player.
Posted: Jun 25th 2010 8:15AM toothball said
Actually, you barely see those ponies anymore and besides, there is no comparison between an advertisement and an in game mount.
The biggest problem i have with all the advertisement is not the ads themselves, but the fact that it's a sign that the game is going to suck and going to fail. They are not confident in the product, so they are figuring out how to make money when the majority of their player base abandons them after the first month.
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The biggest problem i have with all the advertisement is not the ads themselves, but the fact that it's a sign that the game is going to suck and going to fail. They are not confident in the product, so they are figuring out how to make money when the majority of their player base abandons them after the first month.
Posted: Jun 24th 2010 10:26AM Seffrid said
Not my sort of game anyway, I'm into the more standard MMORPGs, but as I have no intention of ever using voicechat it seems to me to be an excellent way of developers raising funds!
It's certainly an interesting way!
I can't wait for all the cancellations in SWTOR when Bioware announce the details of their cash shop!
It's certainly an interesting way!
I can't wait for all the cancellations in SWTOR when Bioware announce the details of their cash shop!










