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Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 8:03AM (Unverified) said

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mmm guild structure, i love it.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 8:17AM (Unverified) said

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It depends I guess. If it's part of an RP event, we usually just throw it into the mix. People are late, in real life and in fantasy life. Maybe it was traffic, maybe it was a brigand or a dark rider who slowed them down asking for a peculiar hobbit by the name of "Baggins." For raids and dungeon-ish things we can usually wait 10-15 minutes, but then call up a replacement from the large ranks of alts and guild members that we have.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 8:16AM Syesta said

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I have one word for the FFXI players: Einherjar.
No one ever shows up for Einherjar on time...
except for the guy with the Tidal Talisman.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 8:25AM Wisdomandlore said

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If our kind has something scheduled, we usually wait 10-15 minutes. If we can get a hold of them and know they're coming, we'll start without them and save them a spot. If not we fill it in and move on.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 8:40AM (Unverified) said

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If its for a raid and I can replace on time, I don't wait at all. If I can't replace inguild, 10-15 minutes. If it's for something minor, we wait as necessary or start without them.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 8:45AM Birk said

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Sadly, this is why my last few months of WoW devolved into a frantic PuG-fest (not that there's anything wrong with PuGs, mostly). Guild-members being late to a raid cause me constant grief, because I am always at the appointed meeting spot half an hour early.

I hate wasting my time; when I see that over an hour has gone by of me just "waiting", then I start to get frustrated. The same happens with other folks who have been there since half an hour before, and invariably everyone ends up going AFK. By the time we find the appropriate replacements, one or two of the originals has gone offline or for a really long AFK, and we get to wait some more while debating whether to kick them or stick it out.

I have precious small amounts of time as it is, so after awhile it was LFG 9m ICC-10, no achieve necessary but Bring Appropriate Gear.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 11:54AM TheGreatMachine said

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It's just sad when people get stressed out and rage-y over having to wait for someone to play a video game with them.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 2:31PM (Unverified) said

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I think it's sadder for people to doesn't treat promises to another human being seriously, whether it is online or in person.

I would be frustrated if i had *expected* most of my party to show up in time but in turn they mostly did not. Group leaders have the right to be frustrated if the people in the group are incompetent to the level of not showing up on time.

But then again, it is wrong to purposely having yourself frustrated in a game that is supposed to be entertaining you :p It is easy to forbid people who are always late from going to your raid as a leader; and if your role is not the leader, then set an amount of time to yourself and if the party cannot be assembled by that time, just drop it and do something else.
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 12:32PM (Unverified) said

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Imagine you play weekend Rugby. You have a regional champs game on and you're 30 minutes late. Will they wait for you? Of course not. If you're not there for the warm-ups they'll sub in one of the benchers.

MMOs are my weekend sport, therefore I take a similar attitude.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 5:09PM Djinn said

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I think its very immature for someone to say they will be somewhere and to be more than a few minutes late unless they contact people to say so. On the other hand I don't get too upset about it. If someone is consistently late I vote to drop them. If I don't want to wait I leave. As people said - its silly to get upset over a game.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 10:21PM Scarecrowe said

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If it's part of an event I've organized on the forums or reached out to other groups to become a part of... then at 5:01, I'm broadcasting to fill remaining spots. Sorry to the folks who signed up but if they couldn't commit to being there for it then I can't commit spots to them when/IF they show.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2010 11:59PM agitatedandroid said

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Back when I was raid leader/main tank I usually only waited for my healer. Anyone else just caught up when they showed up. Fortunately we had a large guild and could pull folks in if needed so it was rarely a very long wait.

Ultimately, you wait as long as you want. I wasn't a prick about it. No sense in that. And, everyone is late now and then or has to go feed the kids or let the dog out or the house is on fire or whatever.

Raids truly would be boring if there wasn't something of real life tossed in.

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