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Posted: Jun 1st 2010 4:16AM (Unverified) said

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Hm.. maybe I was too much thinking along the terms "If I don't need it, noone does." Not a very good view point to have. ;) Alright... after giving it more thought.. I actually think it might work better if there was alot of settling involved. Managing a town at some point (but also being able to do all the solo RDR stuff). A tiny bit like Cities XL, but that ones Multiplayer part wasn't well received tho.
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Posted: May 31st 2010 9:57AM NeoWolfen said

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I think a Western RDR inspired type of MMORPG would be nice, although RDR wouldn't be great for a direct conversion as it doesnt have a massive amount to do to be honest (central story, few stranger missions, some challenges and then an endless strew of repetitive random encounters).

Its a good starting point but it would need lots more adding to it in the forms of missions, locales, crafting, customisation, weapon varieties, and advancement etc..

Combat is fun in RDR though and existing MMO companies REALLY need to look at the quality of sight, movement and sound of the mounts in RDR because they put mounts in all existing MMO's to complete shame.

It is very much a genre that has been completely overlooked by MMO companies though, for certain.

Posted: May 31st 2010 10:34AM (Unverified) said

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Immediately after seeing the commercial for red dead redemption I thought ''why isn't there an mmorpg like that yet''.

Building wild west towns, gathering your posse for pvp .....

Posted: May 31st 2010 10:54AM (Unverified) said

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Agreed with most on here. I am playing it, and it's the 1st PS3 game I have bought that I am crazy about. Other games are okay, but this is the first game in some time where I listen to the quests, see something over their...go check it out, and am having a blast. I think an Old West style MMO would be a breath of fresh air to a genre full of fantasy and scifi MMO's that are all basically the same game rehashed with a different color scheme.

Posted: May 31st 2010 11:24AM Saker said

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After watching HBO's pretty recent series Deadwood a few years ago I was completely sold on a wild west MMO. Old west, wild west frontier makes for a fantastic setting, so much interesting history to work with, be inspired by, so many amazing real world characters to work from use as inspirations. Definitely sandbox, absolutely, please no more of the endless class/level boring cookie-cutter grind-fests! Make it some kind of skill-based. All kinds of possibilities for mini-games (just the various "games of chance alone"). Maybe all the recent interest will get some wheels turning, some one will do some investing, who knows.

Posted: May 31st 2010 11:35AM Wensbane said

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I would buy a Red Dead Redemption MMO without even thinking twice, to be honest.

Go on, Rockstar. Give me another reason to give you even more of my money.

Posted: May 31st 2010 11:56AM Dogorox said

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I love to play either a healer type character or a mage in mmo's. What type of characters would I be playing in an MMO based on the American Old West. Let me guess: Time to break out the Indian Shaman right? 0.o

Puh-leeez! Any title based on the old west would be best served as a social game (2nd Life) or a FPS than trying to compete in the fantasy MMO market.

Posted: May 31st 2010 11:59AM Duulin said

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How about a drunk pyromaniac that specializes in Molotov cocktails...
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Posted: May 31st 2010 12:05PM (Unverified) said

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Thank goodness you don't work for a games developer.

Anyhow - to answer your (frankly blinkered) response:
Some classes spring to mind for healers..
- 'Doc'
- Medicine Man / Medicine Woman

And who says there *has to be* a Mage class?
In terms of ranged classes, I'm fairly sure there was no shortage of Bows, Arrows, or Rifles in the wild wild west..

..and if you really wanted to go with magic, then I'm sure a 'Witch' would fit perfectly well (if you could avoid being burned at the stake, of course).
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Posted: May 31st 2010 1:50PM Tizmah said

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Everyone wants an MMO of every single object under the sun. I personally don't feel the wild west would work in a typical MMO setting. Being a big western fan, when I think about applying leveling or getting loot for better armor, it makes me want to barf.

I mean, there aren't a variety of people to fight in the wild west. Just humans and animals. The game would need to boast a LOT of interactivity than most MMOs. Because honestly, in RDR, I've put in 10 hours in the multiplayer. It's very boring, going from the same gang hideouts over and over without any real motivation of story or happens in this very open world.

It sounds fun at first sure..but I honestly don't think a western MMO would work. It just doesn't have longevity. I mean it would have to be more about settlement building, protecting the towns, and placing bounties on other players heads.

Perhaps it would have to be set up more in a Face of Mankind way..Where you have to pick if you are part of the law, gang, outsider, wander, bounty hunter, etc.

Posted: May 31st 2010 12:37PM Wensbane said

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Actually, it would be the perfect setting for a sandbox MMO.

Your actions would affect your reputation with the rest of society. Murder someone and you'll become an outlaw, unable to enter most "civilized" towns (unless you pay a steep fine), but open for attack by anyone who wants to claim the bounty on your head.

This alone would suit two different playstyles: criminal and bounty-hunter. Two completely distinct ways to progress and (possibly) profit.

Then there would be gatherers and crafters. Those who hunt animals for their hides and meat and those who use said things to create items for other players. Maybe even introduce the ability to gather minerals and lumber, so players can create ammo and weapons.

Also:
- No classes, no "healers" (healing would come through items alone), no magic. - Random encounters (blue quests), side quests (horse taming, ranch patrolling, etc.), plus a compelling main storyline. ALL optional.
- Challenges and achievements.
- Possibility to create settlements and/or occupy forts, for "posses".
- Possibility to rent and/or buy several types of property (anything from small houses to huge ranches).
- Horse breeding.
- Mini-games: Poker, Blackjack, Horseshoes, etc. (more ways to progress and profit).
- Ability to record your own black & white movies, using in-game tools, and display them at the local cinema (another possible way to profit).
- Ability to challenge others to duels (to the death or otherwise).
- No "Super Shotgun of +100 Accuracy", or anything similar. Items of superior quality would provide MARGINAL benefits, but player skill ALONE should decide fights.

Plus a bunch of other stuff, the possibilities are endless, really...

I don't think I'd play anything else for the rest of my days, tbh. DO IT, Rockstar! Do it NOW!
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Posted: May 31st 2010 1:32PM Tizmah said

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Sounds like Darkfall.
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Posted: May 31st 2010 1:43PM Wensbane said

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Yes, I'm sure most Darkfall players like to spend their time collecting bounties, making movies, playing poker, breeding horses and patrolling ranches (just to name a few).

All inside Darkfall's amazing "Old West" setting, where there are no healers or magic spells. Oh, wait...

Seriously though, fantasy MMOs are a dime a dozen. Even the "sandbox" variant of that particular sub-genre is fast becoming crowded.
But an "Old West sandbox MMORPG"? Now THAT would be on a class of its own!
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Posted: May 31st 2010 12:29PM (Unverified) said

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It maybe wouldn't work as a typical themepark MMO with classes and levels. IMHO it would make a lot more sense to use a skill based system for character advancement (like in UO). Define "classes" by the type of skills the players are using. And put the whole thing in a big open world. There are many things you can do to keep players motivated.

Posted: May 31st 2010 1:38PM (Unverified) said

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These were my thoughts exactly, this environment is screaming out to be transferred into a sandbox mmo. I believe it would have to be sandbox, as a theme park would not capture the atmosphere in quite the same way as the free roam of RDR creates. This is a period and environment largely ignored by games with one or two exceptions, but, as Rockstar has shown the general feeling of lawlessness at a time when settlers were seeking to make a new life from the land, lends itself perfectly to a mmo. Assuming it was designed with the same level of production as has been lavished on this game, I am certain it would inject new life into what has largely become a sterile, same old, same old genre of late, and be an instant hit to boot.

Posted: May 31st 2010 1:41PM Tizmah said

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I personally would rather not have it be tarnished with "MMO". I personally think they should simply do more with what they have already done with RDR multiplayer. They just need to add the NPCs, more mission and objectives, etc. Keep it 16 player limit maybe higher. Add skills you can develope. No need to make an entirely new game when they can just simply do more with what they already have.

Posted: May 31st 2010 1:53PM Tizmah said

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I mean honestly, the Western setting can work great as an MMO really. I mean Fallen Earth in a way is like the wild west. (But I think that game is not very polished or great)

Rockstar's Multiplayer in RDR works alright. But there isn't much to do and it gets boring quick if you aren't playing the gang matches. Free Roam is pretty boring after a while, quickly.

I think it's really ignorant to try and say "Rockstar Do It, make an MMO!" When they haven't even perfected multiplayer in their single player, know what I mean? One step at a time I say.

Posted: May 31st 2010 1:54PM Liltawen said

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I live in San Antonio so I'd certainly like to see one. If it were a PC game I would have gotten this one altho even 'multi-player' RPGs don't interest me much. It really needs to be 'massively' before i get excited.
A Firefly/Serenity MMO would be nice as well.

Posted: May 31st 2010 6:27PM Crode said

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I hope you all have seen those youtube videos about the glitch found in this game. Funniest thing I have seen in a long time.

http://kotaku.com/5546819/see-red-dead-redemptions-incredible-donkey-lady--gunslinger-dog

Posted: May 31st 2010 7:42PM dudes said

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An untamed wild west MMO would be tootin' gunsmokin' fun idea. Especially with what the girls would have to do.

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