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Posted: May 29th 2010 1:34PM Cendres said

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Yes some of the comments that were down rated really didn't need to be..
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Posted: May 29th 2010 2:39AM cray said

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Sera, I totally appreciate your articles because you take the time to engage with your commentators. That in my opinion is the best form of moderating because it keeps posters on the topic.

I look forward to seeing other Massively writers engage their posters more, as it's only going to make this blog more interactive. Which ironically what MMOs are all about...interactive communities.

Posted: May 29th 2010 2:50AM SgtBaker said

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If you'd upgrade your crappy blogging software to actually allow for threading and not losing every other post we might actually have discussions here...

Oh, trolling is not allowed anymore? Darn.

Posted: May 29th 2010 2:55AM SgtBaker said

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Oh and I'm totally with, like, the dude guy up there. Man what a bummer..


[seriously though, if this is successful, maybe one of these days I'll stop writing shitposts and get back to /serious/ commenting about /serious/ MMO pixels.]
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Posted: May 29th 2010 3:00AM (Unverified) said

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I would bet those people claiming they don't want to go to events because of comments here... are just venting, you're never going to please everyone, and trying to police forums is a fools game imo. But the more interaction part sounds good. Also it would be great if more active discussions didn't drop off the front page into oblivion so quickly.

Posted: May 29th 2010 2:00PM Brianna Royce said

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Heya Joakal! If you look over to the right, the site actually displays a "most commented on" sidebar that shows all the big topics from the last week. That should help you figure out where the hot chatter is.

-Bree
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Posted: May 29th 2010 3:58AM oxlar said

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I see....Big Brother (sister) is watching.

I ....I feel so ....violated.

Posted: May 29th 2010 1:34PM Brianna Royce said

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Hey come on, that's not fair. Anyone could go back and review your posts by clicking on your profile, not just the staff. You expressed concern that your opinionated posts would be caught up in moderation, and Sera checked out your posts to assure you that the things you post are, with one minor exception, completely within the rules. So stop worrying. :)

We'd really like to make the comments a more positive, friendly, and constructive place to hang out, for everyone. I don't think it's too much to ask our commenters to help us make that happen! It doesn't mean you can't be sarcastic. It doesn't mean you must love every game we post about. It doesn't mean you can't have strong opposing views. It just means you can't be a jerk to our other guests.

-Bree
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Posted: May 29th 2010 6:44AM MrGutts said

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Aside from all the rules. When are you guys going to adopt the Engadget comment system, something like Joystiq is doing right now?

Posted: May 29th 2010 11:29AM Seraphina Brennan said

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When the web team finally gets around to us. We're very eager to update to the Engadget comment system (as we think it's darn cool,) but the web team has to go around to every site in the company, not just Joystiq and WoW.com.

Right now, I can't give you any sort of targeted release date, but when I hear more I'll be sure to pass it on!

~Sera
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Posted: May 29th 2010 7:26AM Critical Mass said

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Q: How does Massively's choose to differentiate between so called "trolling" and for example what we might know as merely "sarcasm"?

A part of providing ones own opinion, no matter how negative or antagonistic, is for attracting attention and engagement in one way or another with other people. Surely my opinions is not to be held as simply a way for fake cathartic expression, only to be moderated on a whim or by accusations of trolling.

Posted: May 29th 2010 11:48AM Seraphina Brennan said

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It all comes down to the directness and severity of the attacks. Sarcasm is usually a little biting, but it still comes off as lighthearted and funny. Sarcasm is usually angled both at the topic and what's been said about the topic and, to some degree, the person. While I'm not one for having attacks against another writer be thrown in, a little lighthearted sarcasm is certainly fine.

The problem enters when...

A. One writer repeatedly attacks another writer, throwing wanton disregard to the topic to seek the pleasure of humiliating another or...

B. The sarcasm is so scathing and objectionable that it's no longer sarcasm, it's a direct attack.

That's when sarcasm isn't really sarcasm anymore. At those points, it's obvious that it's no longer "just sarcasm" and it's something more. In which case, we'd come down and intervene, asking people to stay on topic. (We're not going to just jump to the editing button unless something truly profane or unacceptable was said.)

~Sera
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Posted: May 29th 2010 12:37PM (Unverified) said

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No more trolling pubbies?

Bah.

Posted: May 29th 2010 2:51PM oxlar said

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Well that last comment was in jest. But which post would she be refering to that is out of line?

Posted: May 29th 2010 3:16PM Seraphina Brennan said

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The one post where, when discussing net neutrality, you called a guy a dumbass. That's it. Rest of the post was great, but I would have asked you to avoid any other direct attacks like that.

~Sera
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Posted: May 29th 2010 3:52PM Deadalon said

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In all my time as both poster and mod on many forums... Here is a fact... Mods dont follow any rules. They have their own opinions and that determines what is allowed to stand and what is banned. This side seems to be taking the same route.

Another fact that ppl need to realise. Negative opinions about MMOs are valid - just like the positives. Many websites that are directly or indirectly funded by the gaming companies (adds) do not allow true discussion. Instead they allow the fanboys to spit all over other posters and usually end up banning everyone else than the fanboy.

I worked for a big MMO fansite for a long time. You moderate forums based on who is paying the bill. If the add is from game X this week.. then you delete all the negative posts about game X. If ppl argue ... you simply go to say.. we are private website that follow rules of code of conduct. On a good day - when the posters actually had some true reasons to wonder why their posts got banned - we usually put "We can do what we please" in the end... just to piss em off even more....

This is buisness... and Massively is just the same.

Posted: May 29th 2010 4:59PM Brianna Royce said

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But Deadalon: we're *not* other sites; we're Massively, so please judge us on things we do, not things other blogs do. We don't moderate comments for content; we posted these rules to explain the things we *do* moderate for. Just look through our archives -- we've posted boatloads of critical opinions about games. And so have our commenters! Besides, thanks to the magic of browser plugins, I suspect most of our staff can't even see who is advertising with us to begin with.

Not everything is some deep financial conspiracy. We just want to clean up the comment threads and pave the way for open, honest debate.
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Posted: May 31st 2010 1:22PM Brianna Royce said

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As an addendum, I caught a glimpse of Massively in an unmodded Internet Explorer today, and got a good look at our ads.

So I have to ask: is Massively in the the pocket of "Big Hot Dogs," or "Big Suzuki Car Leases"? Clearly, we have a conflict of interest!!

Hehe.

-Bree
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Posted: May 29th 2010 7:16PM Aetrix said

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I guess I'll have to stop being such an a-hole around here...

Posted: May 29th 2010 8:33PM Anatidae said

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Oh crap. The next article about Richard Garrot is bound to get me banned. *sigh*

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