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Posted: May 20th 2010 6:58PM (Unverified) said

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mumu, the fact that some people like different things to the things you like does not necessarily mean that you are aware, conscious and enlightened, and they are not. It may just mean that they like different things to you.
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Posted: May 21st 2010 9:36AM (Unverified) said

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It's not about liking different things. It's about being able to differentiate things. It's about understanding these types of business models are ripping you off and being able to take a stance against them instead of throwing your money the minute items become available. It's about having a will and an idea.

Nowhere did i say i have those virtues i wrote.

I'm trying very hard not to make a marxist argument about it all but it's hard. I don't wanna discuss these things in an mmo blog.
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Posted: May 20th 2010 3:26PM (Unverified) said

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EQ2 was pushing the boundarys selling all those fluff items at the shop, (and the xp potions) but WoW completely broke down all the barriers when they introduced that damn horse for sale. They made a crap load of money and now we can probably expect this to become the norm in most every major mmo.

Next they will be selling armor sets, crafting patterns and content like special dungeons you can unlock and get superior xp and items from on top of the subscription price.

The flood gates have been opened and there’s no closing them now.

Posted: May 20th 2010 3:25PM Lateris said

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$25.00 is way to much. They should at least make it $9.99 and add a couple pets for buffing that are included. Poor EQ fans...you are so frakked over by your Lords and Masters at SOE\SONY.

Posted: May 20th 2010 3:31PM Monkey D Luffy said

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Seems that the players need to stand up to this or it will become as normal as paying for a subscription.

Blizzards greed is affecting all of gaming.


This is like the DLC for offline games, cutting parts of the game out and selling them separately for half of what the main game costs.
DLC is now a normal part of gaming because no one did anything about it.

Posted: May 20th 2010 3:42PM BaronJuJu said

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Blizzards greed? WTF are you talking about? There were tons of games with item shops long before WOW came along? If anything they are extremely late to the game but got more attention due to the size of their player base.

As as not wanting it to become a normal thing....your about a year too late. It is the new norm.

People who thought MMO companies would always stick to the $15 a month flat rate forever are kidding themselves.
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Posted: May 20th 2010 3:42PM Dranaerys said

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ITs too late, people buying sparkleponies in droves the same as moron paying 15 bucks for map-packs in MW2 send a clear message that there is a market of retards willing to pay premium pricing for negligible content, so "standing up" against this is impossible, it already is the norm, and the lastest scam they are running at Bliz with the upcoming mobile remote wow thing is the latest salvo in another blatant attempt to milk more money out of you. I mean really, was a time when your subscriptions meant that the dev makes content and upgrades for their customers.. nowadays people seem to forget that tis the subscribers that are paying Blizzard's paychecks, and with what they are raking in every month, you think getting a free sparklepony or a bloody iphone app wouldnt be much to ask for.. but then again, this is Bobby Kotick we are talking about.

My advice, move the fuck away from all activision and SoE games, at least the guys over at Turbine dont seem to have utterly sold out... yet.
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Posted: May 20th 2010 4:01PM Teki said

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Turbine has DDO filled with items for sale.
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Posted: May 20th 2010 3:41PM (Unverified) said

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If only EQ2 mount animations didnt suck so bad. Nothing like running down a steep slope or stairs and the back end of your mount being inside the ground because the mounts stay flat no matter what the terrain.

Posted: May 20th 2010 3:41PM Innocentte said

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I ROFLMAO every time I see some beefy Warrior or Death Knight sitting on his/her :

Sweet Little Sparkly Happy Pony

Sooooo Cute

I am seeing fewer and fewer of them being ridden (in public).

At least SOE had the good sense to make theirs at least somewhat dignified looking.

Posted: May 20th 2010 3:57PM Dalrint said

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I still like my sparkly star horsie, thank you very much.

Well, not on my main. She rides her proto-drake. But on alts it's nice!
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Posted: May 20th 2010 3:45PM Interitus said

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While it's an unfortunate trend developing, the thing that gets me is in both games I find the $25 mounts really ugly.

Posted: May 20th 2010 4:04PM (Unverified) said

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I know it's really emo and dramatic to call this the downfall of the MMO universe... but this trend or whatever you want to call it just looks really really bad for anyone that enjoys quality games at a reasonable price, a space where everyone is essentially equal and rewards are earned through some kind of effort and determination.

Just listening to the last massively speaking and Richard talking about those early adapters that were willing to deal with bugs and server issues and so forth, because they loved the game..... where is that kind of gaming pride when people are dropping $25 on bullshit scams? Games used to bend over backwards trying to stop RMT... now they *are* RMT.

The nightmare scenario I see is that one after another every MMO that thinks they can get away with it will chase after that minority of players willing and able to spend too much on whatever the hell, leaving all the rest of us, the actual player-base, out of it all together. Like some exclusive country club that only special rich people get to join.

Maybe that won't happen, but players do need to make it clear that this kind of thing comes with a price as well as the profit.

Posted: May 20th 2010 4:49PM Rialle said

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This seems to be is exactly what is happening. We now have MMO companies expecting to charge the normal monthly fee, and they are introducing premium stuff for extra cash. Eventually I expect premiums that give people with more money to burn even bigger advantages.

I expect this in a F2P game, but in a subscription game that is already making billions off of just subs like WoW, it is a slap in the face to those who don't have a lot of disposable income. The idea that some spoiled rich kid with access to daddy's credit card can surpass the hard work of a regular player is disgusting.

Sparklepony was cosmetic, but Blizzard is adding premium features to it's mobile AH app. The ability to access the AH at any time IS an advantage, especially if you are the type who games the AH to make gold. I believe it is only a matter of time before Blizzard sells epic gear directly to players.

This EQ2 mount actually provides an advantage to your character, which is even worse than Sparklepony.

The question is if the people who quit because they are at a constant disadvantage will be made up for the people spending tons of discretionary cash.
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Posted: May 20th 2010 4:17PM (Unverified) said

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Yeesh, seems priced much too high. I might consider buying something frivolous like this if it were much cheaper. As for moral objections or whatever? Nah I think it's great. It's a regressive tax similar to the lottery that targets the dumbest amongst us to give everyone benefits.

Posted: May 20th 2010 4:21PM Beau Hindman said

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Sweet, bought it asap but before the update on it being account-wide. Saaweeet! Collecting will be beautiful, now. (I am an obsessed collector.) You can fight/collect items from the mount. But, it does NOT swim.

Beau

Posted: May 20th 2010 4:44PM (Unverified) said

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I'd like to add that the Sr. Producer just added that they don't have featherfall...

SmokeJumper wrote:

Dareena@Lucan DLere wrote:

Saharah wrote:

So people keep mentioning featherfall....


Hmm... That's a good question. The Feather Fall language was used in the online SOE article that described these mounts. Yet it's not on the item's stats. Is this another "whoops" from SOE like they've already done by not including a pure Heirloom tag (until the Tues Hotfix)? Or is the online article misleading?

The article must be misleading, because there is no feather fall ability on the Prowler mounts.

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=195&topic_id=478954

Posted: May 20th 2010 4:46PM jimr9999us said

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Wake up and smell the coffee folks! The price we've been paying for top tier on-line virtual worlds IS NOT SUSTAINABLE!

We've enjoyed a free ride for years. Be prepared to pay what content costs over the next decade. The free ride is over.

And for those too ignorant to understand it, there's always Farmville. Enjoy.

Posted: May 20th 2010 6:21PM (Unverified) said

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So $15 a month plus the retail cost of a game and expansion isnt enough to keep a virtual world going.

I call BS on this as if you have any decent amount of Sub`s then you`ll be making a healthy profit by itself and any game that doesnt shouldnt have a cash shop anyway as the dev`s should be uysing their time to fix the original not give us more overpriced crap.

Things in the cash shop are going to start giving heatlthy benefits to whoever buys them and it wont be a lvl playing field anymore but just a big grind with who can afford to waste the most money on their gear.

If you want to play a game like that more power to you but I draw the line at someone gouging me which is pretty much what these companies are doing.
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Posted: May 21st 2010 12:31AM kasapina said

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If it's not sustainable, then why is every second dev out there jumping on the mmo bandwagon?
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