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Posted: May 13th 2010 1:28PM (Unverified) said

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considering the sheer number of loyal and fanatical star trek fans out there for STO to only have 100 000 subscribers in the first couple months speaks volumes about the quality of this game. And that was back in March. Its probably less now. A game with the Star Trek IP should much more subscribers.

Posted: May 13th 2010 6:06PM (Unverified) said

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"Considering the sheer number of loyal and fanatical star trek fans out there for STO to only have 100 000 subscribers in the first couple months speaks volumes ..."

You can't take the Star Trek (series & movies) fan base and assume they'd all be possible STO subscribers. Out of a dozen -or more- Star Trek fans I know personally, a few going all the way back to TOS days, only two of us even purchased STO.

- Some haddn't even heard of the game.

- Some have too many family obligations or too busy with work, etc.

- A few are unemployed, them or their wife / husband

- They are playing other MMO games or just don't like MMO games and play "single player"-ish games (Call of Duty, etc)

- Two of them would like to play STO, but their wife's are too afraid of becoming "WoW widows" (in one case again)

- One is deployed in the military.

- and a few just don't like computer games.
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Posted: May 13th 2010 7:22PM (Unverified) said

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sorry if this reply is misplaced, there was no reply link below Rambies reply.

I agree that just because someone is a Star Trek fan doesnt mean they are a MMO fan also, but i think a name like Star Trek should have pulled in a higher amount of subscribers. 100 000 seems more like the kind of number you would expect from some average non IP based MMO. Im sure if you took a poll of the players and asked why they subscribed to this game, they arnt going to say because its a wonderfully designed MMO, they will say its because it is Star Trek themed.
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Posted: May 13th 2010 8:17PM (Unverified) said

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I could not agree more. I canceled my subscription after about 2 months, enough time to gear an admiral and get 2 alts well along before it got brain numbingly boring. I'm putting my STO money I'm saving by not playing towards a new Alienware system.
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Posted: May 13th 2010 10:13PM Sam not Spam said

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Rambie - don't forget the fact the system requirements are a bit on the high side. Just because someone is a Trek fan doesn't mean they have a super-nice computer!

I think I'll be getting back in next month. I really enjoyed the game when I was playing it, but I've only got so much time for gaming and already subscribe to City of Heroes. STO, oddly enough, is the only other MMO that I enjoy besides COH... they both "feel" fun to me, despite their short comings... But, personal taste and all that.
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Posted: May 13th 2010 1:32PM Birk said

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While I am not the hugest fan of the IP, I have nothing but prayers for STO. A lot of folks on this site seem bitter at Cryptic; and whats worse...most of their gripes seem well-founded. I have never played CO, nor STO, and so cannot give a genuine opinion on what these new updates mean to the game.

That said, however, it does seem that they are putting some definite steam into the game. Through devblogs and player feedback, it seems to me that they have implemented and are intending on implementing much of what the player base is asking for.

IE - Starship interiors.

And I dont want to hear the tired adage of - They promised it at launch! - , because as much as I hate it when developers hype up their product on smoke and mirrors, that ship has sailed.

Now Im tempted to say something like, In before the STO haters and Cryptic naysayers! I know there is always a lot of bad press that stagnates around Crypic games, as well as Mythic...Funcom.....etc.

Lets try and do a good job of looking at what these additions mean objectively, rather than what we believe we are entitled to as per -months- ago.

Posted: May 13th 2010 2:50PM Snichy said

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Unfortunately even if every single piece of content that was asked for was added, there would still be people who come here and complain about something that wasnt there.

The reason being either bitterness, grudge against Cryptic or the fact that some people just arent happy unless they are complaining or feel being negative is the only way to be heard above everyone else.

Here endeth the amateur psychology lesson :)
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Posted: May 13th 2010 1:45PM Ayenn said

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Just to keep the record clear, Jack said well over 100,000 players with 100,000 players being the actual target for number of subs. Given the time from then to now they probably have around 100,00 subs at this time. However, they are racing a clock and they know it.

As fat as a new faction goes, typically full expansions are announced a year or so after launch. By time that date rolls around I am pretty sure STO will be in a condition where adding a new faction will not only be plausible but will also be necessary.

between here and there they do have quite a bit of work to do. From what I have seen, regardless of the nay-saying, they are doing that work and at a pretty break-neck speed. STO, in the end, is going to be just fine and will not need to go on life-support... thank goodness.

Posted: May 13th 2010 1:53PM (Unverified) said

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The game just feels bad. I played WoW for the past few months and quit last week. I logged in to STO for the free weekend, and walked around.

Everything was just so lifeless, even during the weekend, you could tell that the game was empty. It still has some lag issues (I say this on a broadband connection with a i7 3.2 + ati 5970)

The game is clunky, there are some incredibly boring missions, an interesting idea here or there, but for the most part you are better off playing Mass Effect or EVE depending on the type of gamer you are.

I am hoping Jumpgate works out, but honestly I have been been burned by almost every mmo that has come out except, SWG, WoW, and EVE.

Actually SWG did burn me...just took a few years.

Posted: May 13th 2010 2:12PM (Unverified) said

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Being that I am someone that generally pounds on STO and Cryptic for the joke of a job they have done.

I did check out the free trial weekend and to set the record straight. The game was anything but lifeless. There where dozens of the instances the starbase and travel zones use. There where generally always several instances of the lower Fleet Actions up and actively being played.

So to say that the game is / was lifeless is just playing lying and I did not notice a single lag issue myself over the 32 hours I played on the weekend.

With that said the game still has a ways to go, but it is slowly getting there and there continues releases of new content and patch's to the game is going along ways to improving the game. It may not be there just yet but 3-6 months from now it will be.

And JGE.. Well if you didn't like STO then you are really not going to like JGE. The controls for space combat and the feel are very similar to STO's, they have just added abit more realtime and space style sim to its feel. (This is based off playing the game at the Penny Arcade Expo.
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Posted: May 13th 2010 2:04PM (Unverified) said

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I'm ashamed to say I played Sto, when a company places a higher priority on it's cash shop that it's content, than wow, there is a big problem.

Not saying a couple of drunken monkeys couldn't have crapped in a box and it have been worth closer than the 50 dollar price tag, but dang.

The "C-store" really pisses me off, fix your game before you start charging people for extra stuff.

Neat, you can explore the interior of your ship, but you're going to have to grind threw those same two boring ass two missions for how much longer. Buy a clue Cryptic!!!!

Posted: May 13th 2010 2:54PM Snichy said

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I am a lifetime subscriber (based on open beta) but havent played for a while. I enjoy playing but just cannot find the enthusiasm to log on when there are other fully finished games that I enjoy instead.

However based on this article I am very much looking forward to logging in again in the next year to find the game complete and finished (hopefully) so I can commit to it and it will be the quality game it should be.

Posted: May 13th 2010 3:04PM (Unverified) said

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Fair enough, amateur psychology lesson aside,

I do have a personal grudge against Cryptic. I loath them. I will never play another Cryptic game if they give it to me and pay me to play it. I Wanted to like STO so very much, and it was AWFUL.

Cryptic is the McDonald's of MMO's. Yes, they have put up a very nice and shinny facade, but underneath it's still a hollow and empty game, and when you enter, don't be surprised when they offer you french fries in the C-store.

Posted: May 13th 2010 3:37PM GenericPerson said

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There are two companies I felt I could not donate my money to any longer. Sony Online Entertainment and Cryptic. SOE for what they did to my beloved SWG and Cryptic for the underwhelming Star Trek Online, which they just rehashed another game engine.

I still feel alright about my decisions because there are so many more companies producing games that can fill in those gaps. We're in great position as gamers because we have so many options. Companies like SOE and Cryptic should take notice that they aren't the only businesses on the MMO block anymore.
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Posted: May 13th 2010 8:57PM tGill said

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The future of Star Trek Online: nowhere like every other Cryptic game.

Posted: May 13th 2010 10:40PM Graill440 said

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This is starting to get sweet.............

Today my seats arrived, now i can sit in my pre ordered, paid in full, special edition truck. For the last 3 months i have been getting pieces in the mail, all of which i eagerly install and then sit back, looking it over and smile. Next month i will get the engine and i am told in 3 or 4 months i will get the tires and axles, the electrical system is still a year out.....

In a couple years time i will have a truck i am proud of and may be able to use.

*it is to laugh*

Posted: May 14th 2010 1:10PM (Unverified) said

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I hate to say this but I can imagine the comments how these added features were shallow at best and added no real depth to the game.
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