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Posted: May 11th 2010 4:06PM (Unverified) said

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Honestly, I don't blame Palladium Books a bit for suing Trion Worlds over this. When I first heard of "Rift: Planes of Telara," I assumed it had something to do with the Rifts tabletop role-playing game myself.

Posted: May 11th 2010 4:15PM Sephirah said

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"Rifts is Palladium's primary and most familiar IP, so they are understandably anxious to protect it"

No, anybody who has heard of Kevin Simbieda knows that he's way too zelous in defending his IP.
And beware, he could sue you for having named R***s in this article!

Posted: May 11th 2010 4:24PM Rich said

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Exactly...
KS has been been known for going after people for mentioning Rifts and not including the TM on it. If you want to have a site dedicated to the game, you have to include a wall of text of disclaimers about it, otherwise you get a C&D notice.

That being sad, I don't actually blame them for this one, it is sufficiently close where people might mistake it for a Palladium endorsed game.

A Rifts setting would be pretty cool for a MMO, but I would be surprised if they did it after they took a financial beating on the N-Gage game they put out (This system is the wave of the future, you'd be silly not to have a game for it). Then when they started to come out from under that there was the theft of manuscripts for new books by an employee. I am actually surprised they can afford a lawsuit.
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Posted: May 11th 2010 9:35PM (Unverified) said

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Didn't Kevin Simbeida also go REALLY broke at one point and was bringing litigation against anyone withing his immediate visual radius for a while? If I recall Palladium/KS was so desperate for cash, they were taking custom orders for hand-drawn art for 20$ a piece.

Q: Whats the best lesson from being a victim of embezzlement?
A: Sue everyone else first..ask questions later...maybe.

Forget the loyal fan factor, or the money they put in your pocket over the years of purchasing your books and materials... its more fun to pass the financial buck (sorry - bad pun)

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Posted: May 11th 2010 5:06PM (Unverified) said

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Do you blame him?

4 years ago, he nearly lost EVERYTHING because an employee/partner decided to embezzle and steal from him. If it weren't for his fans, his company would have folded like a house of cards. Read up on the Palladium theft. Its an interesting read.
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Posted: May 11th 2010 4:19PM 2DruNk2FraG said

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I have dreaming of a Palladium Rifts game, MMO or single player RPG, for a long time. The name "Rift: Planes of Telara" will undoubtable be abbreviated to "Rifts". This will make it akward for a real Rifts game to make it into the market with out contamination from this other game.

Also, the idea of rifts appearing in the world and creating unpredictable events is almost exactly what happens in Palladium's Rifts rpg. While Palladium doesn't own the idea of dimensional portals, at the very least the name "Rift: Planes of Telara" needs to be altered.

Posted: May 12th 2010 8:14AM (Unverified) said

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actually, i wouldn't be surprised if they intentionally called it Rift to avoid just this very thing, with full knowledge of exactly how similar the two titles and concepts are.
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Posted: May 11th 2010 4:19PM Decados said

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That's hilarious. The people at Palladium are turning into the SCO of Gaming. Instead of putting out product that people want to buy they just are becoming a source of litigous spam, not unlike the scientologists.

I remember when the folks at Palladium were trying to promote their "Rifts: Underseas" book and actually used the lyrics from the Disney Movie 'Little Mermaid' song "under the sea". Disney's flesh eating lawyers had a fun time with him.


Kevin Siembieda should have spent more time making sure people that were working for him weren't robbing from him, and less time trying to be a lawsuit and control freak.

Posted: May 11th 2010 4:38PM wraith808 said

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As much as he might be a bit zealous about protecting his IP, he might have learned from people who weren't as zealous, and when someone blatantly infringed on their IP, they were assaulted with the cases when they didn't protect it. And he's certainly not the only or the worst- I'd say that Games Workshop is much worse in this regard, as they don't even give people a way to play nicely with them.

And the bit about the embezzlement was quite the low blow, and didn't even need to be said. Not witty at all, IMO, but instead mean-spirited. If you ever go through the same (or indeed have any misstep), hope that people don't assault you with it, or you'll know how much it hurts.
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Posted: May 11th 2010 4:24PM Valentina said

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Eh..figures

Honestly I don't like the renaming of the game, if they had kept it Heroes of Telara they probably wouldn't be able to be sued over it. Heroes of Telara seems like a catchier name, albeit a little generic.

Posted: May 11th 2010 4:32PM (Unverified) said

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obviously, trion stole the idea.

Posted: May 11th 2010 4:44PM NeoWolfen said

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Quite funny actually as when I saw the earlier article on Massivelt mentioning RIFTS, Planes of Telara, I instantly thought to myself that Palladium WON'T like that..and now this announcement.

Now if only I could see this weeks lotto numbers as easily :)

Posted: May 11th 2010 4:42PM ScottishViking said

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While I know that Siembieda is over-litigious, this one seems pretty close to the mark. It's extremely close in concept AND in name. Furthermore, it's within an RPG setting. All told, that is a fairly decent case, certainly worth pursuing a C&D order.

Posted: May 11th 2010 4:58PM Faryon said

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This doesn't look good for Trion.. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Posted: May 11th 2010 5:05PM elocke said

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Pathetic. Such petty crap is why we're still stuck on Earth and not colonizing Mars and beyond. Sucks that I have to live in the same world as these "people".

Posted: May 11th 2010 6:02PM (Unverified) said

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Yes, because lawyers and videogame designers are the same people who design our rocketships and colonization projects?
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Posted: May 11th 2010 6:53PM (Unverified) said

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Palladium are just using this to get themselves a little publicity and probably a pay off. I see it as the following;

The premise of R: PoT isnt new: Lots of games have used the dimensional tear notion, not the least Oblivion. The term of 'rift' in a MMO, or comics or books or whatever, even isnt new. Is Palladium gonna sue every one of them that features the notion?Palladium didnt invent it and have no right to the exclusive use of it.

The name is Rift: Planes of Telara, not Rifts. Unless Palladium copyrighted that exact name, or proves it draws directly from their terrible IP, they have no right to it.

Anyone who has actually played the Rifts PnP game can tell you that what they offer lorewise and what Trion is going for are worlds apart. They arnt similar in lore or flavour at all.

I am not claiming all the above is law or anything, just how I see it.

Did i mention Palladium games are terrible?

Posted: May 11th 2010 11:25PM DevilSei said

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Beat me to the punch of saying that. If he wants to sue over rifts that alter the land around them and are bad, this game is only the most recent one to do something similar.

Honestly, I'm not much of a PnP'er, so I've never even heard of "Palladium", DnD? Yeah, but not them.
They are kind of jumping the gun though. Had they contacted Trion Worlds and requested them to alter the name slightly so as not to sound like its connected to their property, but Trion gave them the finger, I'd be right behind Palladium. But right now it seems, smells, and sounds like a desperate cash grab. Smart, but desperate.
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Posted: May 11th 2010 6:21PM Dread said

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So he owns the word Rift or variations of? Hope Raymond Feist doesn't find out.....or any sci fi show that mentions the words rift or rifts

Posted: May 11th 2010 7:01PM Regault said

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He has the trademark on the word Rifts for producing RPGs, and their game concept is similar enough to the Rifts RPG that his lawyer can reasonably argue that it would cause market confusion.

Granted, I doubt Heroes of Telara will have a rules system that consists of a ridiculous malformed hodgepodge of 1st edition AD&D houserules, but this lawsuit is a lot more reasonable than Games Workshop suing over "Space Marine" and "Terminators".
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