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Posted: May 10th 2010 9:17PM Anatidae said

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Unusually large ship interiors.

Which is opposite of the show. The sets in Star Trek have slightly shorter doors than normal. Maybe to make the actors seem larger? Or perhaps it was to make it feel more like a ship (sailing vessel).

It would be nice if Cryptic would modify their engine to support small rooms. I have been in some pretty small rooms in WoW and other MMOs just fine.

Posted: May 11th 2010 10:59AM Stormwaltz said

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Doors and corridors are often oversized in games - particularly in ones with third-person views. Cramped quarters makes it difficult to place the "camera." If the corridors in STO were 1:1 scale with the show's, your camera would be constantly knocking against the walls and ceiling, getting blocked by your avatar, or getting stuck in its head.
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Posted: May 11th 2010 11:03AM Anatidae said

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I fully believe that if the developer really wanted they could "solve" that issue. I have seen games that the camera does get cramped, but it still works. many places in WoW are like that in buildings.

But, I have also played games where the engine is smarter and can "remove" the roof and upper floors (and anything on them) to only show the area you are in and using black/fog/whatever to hide what might be on the other side of a wall you can now see "over". Very typical in Bioware games. Diablo style.

It can be solved if they really wanted to do it.
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Posted: May 10th 2010 9:28PM (Unverified) said

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I have to question the general tone of the posts you guys have been running about STO and Cryptic in general and their general lack of criticism. After a quick review of a few previous posts about this beleaguered game, the general tone of the articles have been about how Cryptic is really making a great push to keep the players happy by doing this or that. From my perspective, they really aren't, which makes me question why Massively as a whole keeps riding the Cryptic train. (Clarifying, season 1 was mostly about adding another instance, pvp, a few new missions and some customization items. Season 2 doesn't really seem all that much more broad or grandiose, klingon content, playable species, ui upgrades...sitting in chairs tech.) I doubt very much that the articles are somehow influenced by anyone but the writers, so don't get me wrong here. I just question whether Cryptic deserves to be painted as the 'comeback kid' here, as they seem to be running a bit of a shell game. As game media, to which many turn to keep up with the news of games of interest, isn't it really up to Massively to report the general state of these games relatively without bias? Does that mean that all these articles about Cryptic really pulling out all the stops, really stepping up to make things right with the players, should go away? Absolutely not, because it is true, they are trying. However, I would like to read an article here or there about how Cryptic, for all their bluster, is really adding content in the most superficial sense of the word. Concluding, Massively, I think you guys do a great job, but I would not mind reading a little criticism (constructive, sure) towards the game companies and their products...if only to keep me better informed.

Posted: May 10th 2010 9:52PM Interitus said

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This is nothing new at all for Massively. I've been calling on them it since STO was in beta. They were in love with Champions Online also and would report every little detail. At some point pretty much every Massively reader has called the staff out on the lovefest with Cryptic. This came to a head eventaully. To be fair they have severly toned down the amount they posts about STO (although STO still seems to be their favorite screenshot game). Now if this is because lack of news or because STO is made of utter fail I'm not sure. I usually browse past STO posts. The point on ship interiors did make me stop. But as was noted by Brian! the engine makes ship interiors look like giant chambers instead of a cramped ship.

To sum it up Massively has it's list of games it adores and they get far more attention then anything else (You'll notice this happening with TOR now)
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Posted: May 10th 2010 10:15PM TheGreatMachine said

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It's curious that we have had no reporting on the fact that STO's house is burning to the ground as a result of the referral debacle. The official forums have been in shambles.
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Posted: May 10th 2010 11:06PM (Unverified) said

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I completely agree. Cryptic has not learned from any of their mistakes in previous games. When STO was in beta, and it felt like a prealpha the community thundered, they didn't listen. Of course the inclusion of microtransactions AND a monthly sub was a red flag to what this company's priorities are...

Releasing a game unfinished to make a quick buck, then after counting the money they squandered from preorder and lifetime subscription "special offers"; they realize no one wants to give them any more. So they tack on more half assed unpolished garbage and are being praised for it. That sir is poor journalism..

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Posted: May 10th 2010 11:04PM dudemanjac said

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Taken from the first sentence of the last article. "There are a lot of things to expect out of Star Trek Online, including things that weren't in the game at launch which made some people rather unhappy. "

Though I didn't do a really thorough search, the Captain's log from 10 days ago points out plenty of the games flaws including the lack of content. I have yet to see them shy away from something when they see a problem. But every article does not need to have a disclaimer or reminder that the game has this and that problem. They tell you what is happening, and if someone wants to look at them as the comeback kid, good for them. But until I see Sera in a Cryptic Cheerleading outfit (plz), I'm gonna say they are being fair.
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Posted: May 11th 2010 1:28AM Anatidae said

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"But until I see Sera in a Cryptic Cheerleading outfit (plz)"

Is that a dare to Sera?
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Posted: May 11th 2010 4:52AM Snichy said

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Last time I checked, Massively reported facts, not their own opinion. Sometimes they summarise the feelings of the community but from what I read, rarely (although occasionally) do they give their own opinion about the game in question and if they do it is in a dedicated article.

It is unfair to criticise the website as they are only giving out the facts and it is not their job to provide others with an opinion or make assumptions about other peoples opinions which possibly thousands of other people do not have.

"Too often we . . . enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - JFK
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Posted: May 11th 2010 11:33AM (Unverified) said

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"isn't it really up to Massively to report the general state of these games relatively without bias?"

Not if they want game companies to still talk to them it isn't.
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Posted: May 10th 2010 10:45PM DancingTaco said

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Saying Massively is riding Cryptics jock is really not fair.. They seem to report every MMO with what sounds like enthusiasm, even WAR which most believe to be in the toilet.. How does saying that Cryptic seem to be really trying put them on said jock? By all accounts Cryptic has been trying to do something. It might not be enough for most, but they are at least trying and thats what Massively reported. You guys make it sound like they are on only one train, that being Cryptic and its simply not true. I have heard what seems like high praise for Tera, FF, Lotro, SW:TOR, and just about every game they report. Stop being so sensitive you pansies and only read the games that interest you. If STO does not interest you, skip it and stop looking for ammo... This from a Lotro player and not STO!

Posted: May 10th 2010 10:56PM Interitus said

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Go back to the buildu and release of CO and then the buildup and release of STO and honestly tell me that Cryptic didn't look like it could do no wrong.. despite harsh criticism from everyone else. Even some of the biggest STO fans were up in arms over what the game became and Massively still wrote like it turned out roses.

I'm not saying other games don't get special treatment also but it's usually by one writer. Cryptic got it from a few at one point literally every other story was STO related. It's not being sensitive, it's wanting full details not the glossy picture. It reads like a fansite not a news site
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Posted: May 10th 2010 10:51PM (Unverified) said

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I find it curious that We didn't make it a full sentence (or fragment) into the first comment before bitching about Cryptic's product.

No wait, I lied. That is no surprise here at all. Bitch Bitch bitch. Bitch Bitch bitch. Holy Crap. Get over it already.

Sakura Park.

AMIDOINITRYT?

Unless you have a Lifetime Sub to CO or STO, then you have zero reason to bitch, because you have only yourself to blame if you continue to play a game you're unhappy with. If you have the lifetime sub, you probably bought it before OB/Launch, and that makes you an idiot for buying before you try it.

They seem to be doing what they can to put out fires. Most of it deserved by their shoddy and shitty Service and depth of gameplay at lauch. But you bought it, you sub to it, and its your choice whether or not you continue to do so.

Jesus Christ.

Posted: May 11th 2010 12:43AM (Unverified) said

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Well it is the internet so I'm sure your proclamation regarding who has the right to complain and who doesn't will have about as big an impact as these complaints will on cryptic.

People tend to complain about things because they like them and want them to be better. Of course it probably won't work unless there is some kind of adverse financial impact on the company, but I'd try not to get so worked up about them doing it. Maybe if you were a little less involved in your surroundings you would feel better and lose a bit of your smarmy know it all personality.
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Posted: May 11th 2010 7:11AM Grizz said

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We' are MMO fans. We have been hurt, burned, and stepped on, and yet we still come back with hope for good news.

It now seems to be Status Quo to release a unfinished game to please investors and then scramble to pick up the pieces.

Remember how finished WoW felt the first time you played it? When was the last time (or time previous) when you felt a MMO really felt polished when it released to the market?
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Posted: May 11th 2010 12:26PM (Unverified) said

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@Weez
People bitch because we've seen it all before. If Cryptic insists on issuing the same tired promises they simply dont deliver on then you, as a fan of Cryptic, should expect the same tired bitching from the interbutts.

Sakura Park. Sometimes you're doing it wrong even when you're doing it right.
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Posted: May 10th 2010 10:59PM (Unverified) said

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It would have been nice if Cryptic actually released the game with enough content and even moderate testing of ground combat would have revealed how boring it truly is.

Perhaps Massively could start actually criticising games rather than blandly praising them all.

Posted: May 10th 2010 11:01PM DancingTaco said

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Yes, but also you have to look at what their are given. Cryptic feeds them, they post it. Look at Lotro as an example. They have not been giving anyone any hints at what they are up to much to the dismay of us the players.. So you only see fluff news lately like Welcome Back Weekends, Anniversary crap, etc.. Now it is probably part of Cryptics plan to feed more info since they are trying to really help their reputation. This is a two-sided sword though as the more you expose yourself, the more you put yourself out there. I think Massively is just reporting every other day because A. Cryptic is feeding them every other day and also B. Because Massively has slow news days sometimes so any news generated is at least something...

Posted: May 11th 2010 12:54AM (Unverified) said

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I don't get how people are deducing that Massively is being impartial or having a "tone" from this 200 word article? The majority of the article is just stating news that has been released. This is an MMO news site. I don't play STO but I'm always interested in what they are doing.

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