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Posted: May 8th 2010 7:13PM Pingles said

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Fascinating stuff. I will check out your next attempt!

Posted: May 9th 2010 5:40AM (Unverified) said

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Had a great time in Mabinogi! So i guess it's time for Crowns of Power!

Posted: May 8th 2010 9:42PM (Unverified) said

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Some sort of rebirth system should be used in every mmo. You can borrow Mabinogi's system or something I've concocted up myself. Both of these systems alleviate the problem of new or casual players wanting to play with their higher level hard core friends.

My system is similar to what I've seen in other games's mentoring system. The difference is that you don't need to be grouped with a lower level friend. At any level past level 20, a player can decided to temporarily lower their level to 1 and have the 1-20 quests reset so that they can repeat them. Now, of course earning one low level will not net you 1 high level but, I think leveling 1-10 will net you 3 levels if you are level 20-30 and 2 levels from 30-40 and 1 level from 40-50. Leveling from 1-13 will net you one level for a 50+ character. Now, leveling 10-20 will net you 4,3,2 levels for 20-30,30-40,40-50 respectively. Leveling from 13-20 will net you 1 level for 50+ players.

Of course you can opt out of this system at any time and still earn the xp you've worked for. The numbers above are for scaling ratios of how much low xp = what amount of higher level xp.

Which brings up the option of heroic quest areas. WoW's phasing technology would be great for this. You could go back to a particular questing area you liked and redo a higher level version at higher levels. Same quests and same mobs scaled to your level and difficulty.

But that being said, I do like the idea of Mabinogi's rebirth because it also incorporates dual classing at the same time. I hope it doesn't fall into the typical trappings that most dual classing systems do when it comes to classes with drastically different equipment requirements. Though WoW already has solved some of that with "heirloom" items.

Posted: May 8th 2010 10:21PM Beau Hindman said

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Nice comment. To be real specific, there are players that specialize in multiple classes. Just the other night I healed, cast lightning bolts and used archery.

Really, you can eventually be master of them all if you had time, there is no restriction.

Beau
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Posted: May 11th 2010 12:26AM (Unverified) said

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Actually, Mabinogi has almost no limits on skill development, and very few equipment restrictions at all (they're mostly gender, age, and race restrictions).

If you have the money (in game, or real cash if you buy gachapons), you can obtain and use the most expensive equipment and weapons in the game when you first start out at lvl 1. Conversely, I know people who have played for years, and still use beginner equipment, just out of personal preference. Most equipment does not become obsolete as you level up, and equipment can be customized to your liking as you use it.

The same is true for skills. You are not limited by anything other than your training, and can learn any combination of skill sets you want. You'll just have to be careful how you spend your ability points, and you WILL need to rebirth a lot to learn everything.

What this means is that most every character will be very uniquely defined, both in terms of skills and equipment. Want to be dual wielding daggers with a backup longbow, and casting healing spells? No problem. Want to be a heavy hitter who carries a claymore, but still can cast lightning spells, and knows how to make clothing? Go for it. It's entirely up to you.

I've been playing Mabinogi since the open beta two years ago now, and I still own some of the same equipment I bought during the beta. There really is no end to the skills you can learn, especially if you try to learn the higher level crafting skills, like tailoring and smithing. Even working non-stop, it can easily take a casual player a year or more to master these skills.

Oh, one note about rebirths. While you can rebirth every week, it will cost you money to buy the character cards that way. On the other hand, if you start your character at age 17, you can rebirth automatically after you reach age 20 in three weeks (characters age up every saturday at noon pacific time). You still need to buy a card to change your character's looks (face/hair), but the free rebirths are a wonderful thing.
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Posted: May 9th 2010 2:33AM (Unverified) said

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Only availble in NA regions. Not available to my location. SEA region.

Posted: May 9th 2010 5:17AM Grendel said

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No, since this year it's available in Europe as well. Great game, lot's of love put in it.

Posted: May 9th 2010 10:58AM Redwense said

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I've really wanted to try this... Is there no hope for people living outside NA and Europe? ):

Posted: Jun 20th 2010 12:32AM (Unverified) said

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I live in the US and I play it fine! I believe they've made it so anyone who would like to can play!
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Posted: May 13th 2010 11:37AM (Unverified) said

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I tried Mabinogi a year or two ago, didn't like it for a number of reasons.

It's death penalty was quite harsh, including losing equipped items. The semi-instanced dungeons were a turn off. I hated the way dungeons work by sealing you in a room with mobs that randomly agro on you. That you could die in three hits meant that the sting of the aforementioned harsh death penalty was quite frequently felt.

The preset times for jobs meant I had to play on the game's schedule and not my own. The breadth of the skill system just means it's easy to gimp yourself unless you've got a template to follow.

Posted: May 10th 2010 9:33PM (Unverified) said

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I've been led to believe that there is a korean version of the game, I'm not sure if that extends the rest of asia as well.

Posted: May 12th 2010 9:09PM (Unverified) said

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Im an avid player of mabi and just to let you know, the game was created in Korea just go to mabingoi.nexon.com for the KR version
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Posted: Jun 3rd 2010 6:04PM (Unverified) said

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There are versions for Korea, Japan and China.

A note on the Rebirth System and aging. When you create a character, and subsequently rebirth them, the oldest you can make your character is 17 years old. Your character gains a year of age once per week, each week on saturday, and you may rebirth for free any time your character reaches age 20. So every 3 weeks. You can however rebirth every week with a paid card, allowing you to increase your skills much faster.

And a note on combat, because it can be frustrating to someone who is used to WoW type combat systems. Mabinogi isn't a game where you simply click on an enemy and melee it to death, while throwing in skills once in a while. When you create your character, I highly recommend that you go to the School in Tir Chonail (You'll see it on the map) and talk to Ranald about "Classes and Training." He'll ask you to come back several times. Pay attention though! There's Ability Points for a reward AND you'll learn how to fight effectively.

Posted: May 10th 2010 11:53PM (Unverified) said

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Yep, Mabinogi is originally Korean. Most of Asia is farther than NA in terms of development, but it should be playable from nearly anywhere. It's a great game.

Posted: May 11th 2010 1:29AM (Unverified) said

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Id like to apologize beforehand for bad ortography, my english isnt very good.

Hello, i am a player from mabinogi and yes you are totally right graphics may not be the best but they have some charm and even though the fighting system can be hard and some say its "too simple" because you just attack, theyre wrong, the thing is to actually combine skills and time right for example im an arecher and im getting a barrier skill wich builts a wooden barrier and at rank 5 i will be able to shoot trough it.
so yeah it can be kinda cool but it does have its flaws for example a skill that became so useless that its only avalible to rank F, the Support shot, it was supposed to hit the enemie and make damage but not to make the enemie flinch but it didnk work and it stuns the enemies wich can result in you killing your teammate because when an enemie gets trown to the ground and hit immediatley, he recovers instantly giving you no chance to charge your next skill.
Also, one of the most useful skills is the Windmill skill, even if you are archer or mage it can get you out of a big problem many times so i reccomend you to get it to Rank 9 at least, and another reccomendation is that you try to focus in a few skills, for example to be an archer i first had to focus in archer based skills, skills that give Dex and Range mastery but now im also focusing on some alchemy, i focus in skills that result useful to others because i do not like playing alone so i like depending on people and viceversa, but thats just me, if you focus on the right skills you can master all dungeons all by yourself, i actually had 2 friends who could Solo the hardest dungeon in the game.
Another little reccomendation, even though averyone always want the coolest armor, in mabinogi it can be a bad idea when your not very good at getting money, there are some cool cheap outfits out there so id reccomend you to start with those or that you only wear your expensive armor when your running a dungeon or something and that you have a cheap set to hang out.

Basically its not a perfect game but it is really good if you like long term games as you said, ive played mabinogi since the NA version came out as pre open beta and i still love the game.
By the way mabinogi will have a "second part" the Korean version is called mabinogi heroes and the NA version is called Vindictus (coming out soon) this one will have more realistic graphics and a darker approach due to violence, this one has a different play system also, i belive the skill system is still there and the aging and rebirthing system too but im still not sure.
This game will be apart tho and Mabinogi Fantasy Life will be still unique and maybe will be played by Vindictus players due to the fact that Mabinogi is the start of the story.
If you wanna contact me in Mabinogi or have a good time having fun in Mabinogi, i play in Mari server and my Character name is Rakgnarok.

Posted: May 11th 2010 1:56AM (Unverified) said

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I don't think anyone mentioned that the best way to get friends to make a large party, for help with a quest or any other thing such as just casual chatting is to join a guild. Of course this means that you will have to try a few before you find yourself at home. If friends aren't your thing and you like to go for it solo its doable except for a few quests that need you to have a party so stop being so anti-social even if its for a few minutes and you will see the rewarding experience. It is a MMO so don't expect this to be a one player adventure.

There are 3 races, Humans, Elves and Giants each have different speeds and a set of specific skills aside from the general ones.

Additionally there are sites that can help you plan out what you want to do. I'm from Mari server, and my main is a human named darumiax.

Posted: May 11th 2010 8:48AM Beau Hindman said

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Great comments, guys, thanks! I rarely reach above level 25 or so because I always rebirth and try out some new skill. Right now I am on a ....don't laugh....tailoring kick. I am tired of spending 450k on outfits so I want to be able to make my own!

Beau

Posted: May 11th 2010 8:02PM (Unverified) said

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As a current player of Mabinogi I must say the review is fairly accurate. One part I want to stress though is the customization. In most games you meet someone who looks like you pretty easily thanks to lack of hair styles or colors, or clothing choices. In mabinogi, you actually have to work at trying to look like someone else. First off, there are NO classes in the game- everyone is on equal ground save for advantages from playing a specific race. You can be an archer, a warrior, and a mage all at once if you work at it. In most cases, that's what people do. The lack of classes means that pretty much anyone can wear anything- save for limitations by gender, age, and race- and in most cases are capable of any color, even flashing colors that have a slow strobe light effect! You are capable of changing your height and weight (yes it's possible to have a fat character in this game and notice a distinct difference between them and a thin character. Thankfully there's no bonuses or disadvantages to physical changes so if you're like me and want a plus size woman you dont have to worry about being weaker than other people) and during the rebirthing process can even change your gender! I would suggest getting unisex clothing if you ever decide to do that though...

If I ever had to complain about something, there are two major problems I have. The first is the game is highly based on luck and probability, especially when creating items or putting bonuses on your equipment. The problem wouldnt be so bad if the downsides to failing these things werent so harsh- for example, you can go through a process called enchanting to put stat changes on your gear, such as adding more strength or increases health. The problem is, should these enchantings fail, and for a lot of them that is a very high chance, they damage the item you were going to put the enchant on. In some cases even destroying the equipment! Using equipment too much damages it, thus it must be repaired at an NPC. the problem is even the best blacksmiths can break your stuff at a chance, meaning if you're unlucky enough you could lose your precious fully upgraded mace.

The second issue I have is the community. Although there are a good few people in the game a large group is, to be blunt, just plain arrogant and rude. They enjoy griefing people, they monopolize items and ruin the ingame economy, and spend their time trolling people on the forums. Coupled with the sheer apathy of Nexon towards fixing problems or calming the masses this can lead to a very painful game experience, even making you wish you never tried the game. Although the game is fantastic and one of the best of its kind you need an iron will to cope with the jerks. If you're used to asshats in other games, you're set. If not, well brace yourself for a lack of helpful people willing to show you how to play the game.

Posted: May 11th 2010 8:07PM (Unverified) said

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I forgot to say, that doesnt mean there arent people willing to help you out! All it takes is a little patience for the game to come full circle for you. You will enjoy it no question.
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Posted: May 17th 2010 9:08PM (Unverified) said

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I just wanted to add that although appearance doesn't affect your stats, the food you eat does give you bonuses depending on the dish. These stats can be temporary or, if you eat a lot of the same uncooked food on a regular basis, semi-permanent. For example, an iced cafe mocha gives a significant boost to strength, intelligence and dexterity for a short while, but if you eat a lot of berries eventually you can gain intelligence that will stay with you until you rebirth. The downside is that depending on the food, your stats can also be lowered. Also, semi-permanent stats reset at rebirth, so it may not be worth your while to eat a bunch of the same uncooked food when the temporary boost from cooked food might be more useful.

Oh, and if anyone needs help getting settled into the game, feel free to add me. I play on the Mari server and my character is Kerowyn. I like to try out a variety of life skills so I spend most of my AP on that, but I can hold my own in most dungeons.
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